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world gone crazy |
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electronic literature! is what you all deserve |
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nice for real though, this is what the son of your son of your son is gonna face there will be amazing music in the future, but as for the present.. i don't see a gleam of of hope |
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how come that in 2010 years of cristian hystory nobody thought about thightening the line between music and language? why founding it upon numbers? when music is a language itself? mind you, it's not only a contradiction in terms. you get this at least? or, i must be well insane |
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There are several languages built explicitly to express music. There's traditional notation, guitar tabs, Csound, whatever. They're mostly based on maths (but all grammars are mathematical in some way), but you'll find scores that are more vague and open to interpretation than others, if that's what you're looking for. |
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not exactly |
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I don't know, you seem to have very muddled concepts about whatever it is you're thinking about. |
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i want something that classifies similarities between different domains of sound (big or small), and learn to build interesting context that way, not to improvise all the time for example the sound of an aereoplane's engine correspond to a glissando it's like saying 'with this blue pencil you can draw a sea' |
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maybe, but when you manage to find some sense, it won't be that hard to grasp |
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By the way, "music is a language itself" is mostly not true. Music as it exists now in our culture at least. If it is a language it has the most culturally biased and noisiest encoding of all times. |
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music does not speak to you? |
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maybe it says too many things |
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Can you define even vaguely the difference of meaning between a C and a D? |
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the i |
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btw i said i want but it's not that every shit i come up with is something i really need to know. you made me look like a desperate a lot of times, and many of them i wasn't i'm talking in general, and my questions with time are becoming genuine interrrogatives more than accuses or inquisitions contribute if you have the balls |
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the fuck cares anyway |
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You obviously misspelled the topic title, everyone knows it should be "grammer of teh internetz" |
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'the good ol dayz' |
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interesting topic for sure. |
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ok this argument seems pretty reatrded, mostly because you guys are arguing about different things. mohamed wants some kind of notation for SOUND, not music. like darius said, music notation has existed since long before christ, and is constantly evolving. but sound in itself is simply too complex to notate accurately. youd need some way to draw a constantly changing spectrogram (which, really, if you want some kind of visual notation of sound, that's it) for each millisecond of sound you which to annotate. unless humans develop drastically different ears (or some other sound sensing organ), we're never going to really get beyond words like "harsh," "lush," "loud," "tinny," etc. |
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what? you instead, seems to be lacking the basis what the fuck is music if it's not organized sound. it's not about talking about notation or spectosomething, it's about learning to recognize sound forms in a more realistic, humanistic, less professionistic way than your fucking tech talk. you're just able to list yuor fucking devices, and you don't even know what the fuck are you doing on a more MUSICAL level fuck that, let's just assume i'm a bitch |
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tech talk? im pretty sure music notation has existed since long before modern technology has. so you want a music notation that's just... what? less accurate? i'm pretty sure that's what the adjectives i said before are. what do you mean by "a more MUSICAL level?" seriously, you're just talking gibberish, it's like listening to a politician skirt around subjects about which they know nothing. |
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yeah, fuck off |
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musicians my ass |
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"what the fuck is music if it's not organized sound." exactly my point. you take sound, and organize it. the way you annotate that organization of bits of sound is with musical notes. beyond that, you can describe the timbre, or quality of the sound, and that's where natural language comes in, because the timbre of a sound can infinitely vary, and is in most practical cases unquantifiable. you ask for a way to differentiate between "big" and "small" sounds. now first, ignoring the insanely vague quality of what a "big" or "small" sound is. what's wrong with "big" and "small." you want a way to discuss music in non-quantified terms? aren't we already doing that in english? |
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NO, WE AREN'T DISCUSSING. lets just talk about the nth boring release, i'm not here to impose anything. i already have my verifications. won't be sharing them anymore. |
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you do realize that discussion is merely the exchange of information right? the entire purpose of a language is to discuss things. you want to convey information about sound through some other language - how is this not discussion? I don't know, you seem to have very muddled concepts about whatever it is you're thinking about. |
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okay wait, i've read back through the thread. is all this based on you denying that music is fundamentally math? because if so i can see why this has gone absolutely nowhere. |
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muddled. someone said that to me already. you clearly can't read/can't understand a shit. check the one thread i started some years ago, my points are dispersed around 12380 posts. goo dluck |
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i don't even want to know where are you going with your fucking number$ |
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boring video as per usual |
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the way you annotate that organization of bits of sound is with musical notes. i annotate nothing. i just go by recognizing timbres beyond that, you can describe the timbre, or quality of the sound, and that's where natural language comes in, because the timbre of a sound can infinitely vary, and is in most practical cases unquantifiable. i don't know what to say you ask for a way to differentiate between "big" and "small" sounds. now first, ignoring the insanely vague quality of what a "big" or "small" sound is. when i started wondering how insanely vague is, you were't born yet |
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its so insanely vague, you have to take it WAY LESS SERIOUSLY |
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mohamed, explain yo'self clearer my nig. |
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