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offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-09 23:25 [#02383275]
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Going to be buying a monomachine next week. Anything I
should know about before I dive into it? Things that may
stand out as annoying?


 

offline Terence Hill from Germany on 2010-06-09 23:44 [#02383278]
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Autechre use it.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-10 02:21 [#02383300]
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I am more fishing for information from users that they found
bugged them right off the bat, so i know what to
expect/avoid when I dive into it.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-10 02:42 [#02383304]
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didja get an MK2? you'll have a lot of fun with it. read the
hell out of that manual. only thing i would wish to add to
the monomachine is more LFO's, and sampling


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-10 03:03 [#02383305]
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Going to be a mk2. Planning on buying a used one from
someone locally. It doesn't have the xdrive tho.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-10 04:10 [#02383311]
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i dont think you need the +drive thing theres already a lot
of memory. it seems redundant. i dont know im probably wrong


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-13 20:22 [#02383835]
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The MD UW makes sense with +Drive.
I'm not sure what benefit you have with the MM.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-14 01:25 [#02383876]
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Yeah, that seems to be what other people are saying.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-14 09:41 [#02383890]
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Anyway - I think I can safely say that, coming from
software, this beast is a revelation. People who dismiss it
for its high price and lack of "specs" (I know quite a few)
don't see the advantage of these limits to the unlimited
possibilities we have in native computer procuction.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-15 03:19 [#02384139]
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I am not coming from software per-se, I have used both
hardware and software extensively. However, after watching
the videos and seeing what it can and can't do, I can make a
safe assumption that its exactly what I need right now.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-15 03:32 [#02384140]
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I read something interesting about a little box that Roland
brought out a few years ago, something called a tb-303. I
think it could be the future of dance music.


 

offline Greg Reason from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-06-15 05:24 [#02384148]
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wow that was so funny


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-15 07:45 [#02384176]
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It really is a lot of fun playing, and a lot of details that
you learn as you read the manual and user tips at
the user forum


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-15 08:31 [#02384184]
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It was? Thanks for sharing.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-15 13:40 [#02384221]
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Taxi - both the Machinedrum and Monomachine are fucking
awesome. I haven't had too many problems with either, but
both of mine are early models so are more prone to bugs and
stuff. I'm guessing you're buying yours new?

The one thing I must say is my Monomachine is totally
bricked at the moment, can't power it on at all. I've opened
it up after Elektron HQ told me to and nothing seems
obviously wrong - the fuse is intact, power is going to the
regulator/transformer board, etc. etc. So if anything, make
sure your power line is smooth and safe (i.e. get a
conditioner if you haven't already). I've gotta send mine
back to Sweden and it'll cost me £200. Well worth it
though.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-16 06:44 [#02384364]
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So, I got the monomachine today. I was kind of expecting a
steeper learning curve. There is a lot more for me to get
used to, but all the stuff I need to know is already firmly
embedded in my brain, and I am developing a workflow. This
thing is a lot of fun.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-17 06:13 [#02384534]
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Jesus this thing is awesome. I now have my sights set on a
machinedrum uw.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-17 06:44 [#02384536]
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Is the monomachine analogue? I can't say I look into much
gear that's under 10 years old, I like my gear to come
complete with a layer of dust pre-installed.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-17 07:06 [#02384537]
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Its completely analogue, has a built in 303 & moog filter,
and has a button in the middle labeled awesome that
automatically makes everything it makes sound good. It also
has a button labeled suck, that makes everything it
makes sound like Pawel wrote it.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-17 09:43 [#02384543]
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Gee wiz Dorothy! When you put it like that it sounds quite
silky. What did you pay for it out of interest? Surely it
can't sound as good as a 303? Nothing ever manages to sound
as good as the original acid daddy.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-17 20:15 [#02384579]
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You will love the MD! Get the UW+!


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-18 04:10 [#02384633]
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Definitely. Its a bit more expensive than the monomachine,
so its going to be some time coming.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-22 09:06 [#02385053]
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Do you know if Amon Tobin uses one as well?
Your name suggests you like him.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-22 18:21 [#02385091]
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I used to be a huge fan, but that has diminished. I have
used this name for about 13 or 14 years on the internet,
well before that movie came out.


 

offline morguean from Calgary (Canada) on 2010-06-23 19:53 [#02385151]
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This 'awesome' button you speak of, would it be FUNCTION? I
know on the MD, the FUNCTION button is my best friend. YOu
can just close your eyes, hold er down and twiddle
accordingly and then magic occurs.



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-23 19:59 [#02385152]
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Its the switch at the top right beside the DC IN.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-23 20:58 [#02385156]
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octa+mnm+md

stupid video but i guess it will sell a lot to newbies


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-25 09:09 [#02385272]
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Yeah, this video doesnt do anything for me.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-25 11:25 [#02385276]
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I still think that its kind of ridiculous to try to market a
hardware sampler at this point in the game. I am sure the
octatrak will sell plenty tho.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-25 16:58 [#02385304]
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It's ridiculous as we've got plenty powerful computers, less
ridiculous when you consider that, to really play the thing
like a guitar or violin, you need a controller a la
Faderfox, Maschine, et al, and not at all ridiculous when
you see how nicely this box does it all, without having to
stare at a computer screen and developing dry eye syndrome
in the process ;-)
I, for one, am glad I have the machinedrum even though I own
Battery, EXS24, Live, Kontakt, Ultrabeat....


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2010-06-26 00:07 [#02385353]
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yeah I'd much rather stare at a 40x40 pixelated screen with
a red backround.

(nah, really; I get ya)


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-26 02:28 [#02385359]
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Well, I am not talking about the Machinedrum. The sampler is
really an important part of the UW Machinedrum, but the main
thing is its a drum machine first. Having the ability to
trigger samples in a manner that is workflow conducive to
the rest of the device really makes sense.

My comment was targeted specifically at the Octatrak,
wherein the main purpose of that device is acting as a
sampler, with the secondary feature of acting as a central
brain and mixer for a Machinedrum/Monomachine combo.

Coming from the perspective of someone who has relied upon
hardware sampling for the greater part of the last six
years; I don't think you can improve upon the options
available to you with software samplers.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-26 02:32 [#02385360]
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Then again, the Machinedrum has seemed to revitalize peoples
interests in hardware drum machines; I think the electronic
music culture would be very different if it wasn't for that
machine. Maybe the Octatrak can do the same for sampling.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-27 10:06 [#02385438]
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Don't know if it would really be different if there was no
Machinedrum as there are so many other products, do you
really think it's so influential? In what way?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-28 04:26 [#02385534]
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Well, before widespread virtual instruments and sample
banks, people used drum machines as their main beat
programming interface. Most of what the classic drum
machines do can be accomplished with software more or less
successfully. I am not the kind of person who really thinks
that a sequencer like the 808 really creates that much more
of a magical experience for the user than something like D16
Drumazon. However, the elektron sequencer seems to make a
lot of sense as a hardware box; it wouldn't nearly be as
interesting or sensible in software format.

>shrug<

Kind of thinking out loud. There seems to be a reason why
all these people who get one seem to go crazy over them.
Autechre wrote an entire album using them. Despite what most
of autechre's recent output sounds like (I am not a fan of
stuff after EP7), I think that says something. Those guys
are true nerds, and have practically every single sound
design tool at their disposal, and they went balls out over
these little machines.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-06-28 11:48 [#02385543]
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Did they write Quaristice with these?



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2010-06-28 14:44 [#02385552]
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Not sure about Quaristice, but they used them for Untitled.


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2010-06-28 15:17 [#02385553]
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I believe there's a lot of Elektron gear used on Quaristice,
yeah. like endless jams edited down.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-29 23:03 [#02385652]
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Yeah, Untilted has a lot of MD in it, LCC is pretty much
default EFM machines. Quaristice has got loads of Elektron
gear in too - bnc Castl is a Monomachine going apeshit for
two minutes.


 

offline format from Germany on 2010-07-01 10:06 [#02385753]
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LCC is default machines? Do you hear it or did you read it
somewhere?


 


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