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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-09 23:25 [#02383275]
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Going to be buying a monomachine next week. Anything I should know about before I dive into it? Things that may stand out as annoying?
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-06-09 23:44 [#02383278]
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Autechre use it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-10 02:21 [#02383300]
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I am more fishing for information from users that they found bugged them right off the bat, so i know what to expect/avoid when I dive into it.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-10 02:42 [#02383304]
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didja get an MK2? you'll have a lot of fun with it. read the hell out of that manual. only thing i would wish to add to the monomachine is more LFO's, and sampling
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-10 03:03 [#02383305]
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Going to be a mk2. Planning on buying a used one from someone locally. It doesn't have the xdrive tho.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-10 04:10 [#02383311]
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i dont think you need the +drive thing theres already a lot of memory. it seems redundant. i dont know im probably wrong
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-13 20:22 [#02383835]
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The MD UW makes sense with +Drive. I'm not sure what benefit you have with the MM.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-14 01:25 [#02383876]
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Yeah, that seems to be what other people are saying.
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-14 09:41 [#02383890]
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Anyway - I think I can safely say that, coming from software, this beast is a revelation. People who dismiss it for its high price and lack of "specs" (I know quite a few) don't see the advantage of these limits to the unlimited possibilities we have in native computer procuction.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-15 03:19 [#02384139]
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I am not coming from software per-se, I have used both hardware and software extensively. However, after watching the videos and seeing what it can and can't do, I can make a safe assumption that its exactly what I need right now.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-15 03:32 [#02384140]
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I read something interesting about a little box that Roland brought out a few years ago, something called a tb-303. I think it could be the future of dance music.
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Greg Reason
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2010-06-15 05:24 [#02384148]
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wow that was so funny
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-15 07:45 [#02384176]
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It really is a lot of fun playing, and a lot of details that you learn as you read the manual and user tips at the user forum
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-15 08:31 [#02384184]
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It was? Thanks for sharing.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-15 13:40 [#02384221]
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Taxi - both the Machinedrum and Monomachine are fucking awesome. I haven't had too many problems with either, but both of mine are early models so are more prone to bugs and stuff. I'm guessing you're buying yours new?
The one thing I must say is my Monomachine is totally bricked at the moment, can't power it on at all. I've opened it up after Elektron HQ told me to and nothing seems obviously wrong - the fuse is intact, power is going to the regulator/transformer board, etc. etc. So if anything, make sure your power line is smooth and safe (i.e. get a conditioner if you haven't already). I've gotta send mine back to Sweden and it'll cost me £200. Well worth it though.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-16 06:44 [#02384364]
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So, I got the monomachine today. I was kind of expecting a steeper learning curve. There is a lot more for me to get used to, but all the stuff I need to know is already firmly embedded in my brain, and I am developing a workflow. This thing is a lot of fun.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-17 06:13 [#02384534]
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Jesus this thing is awesome. I now have my sights set on a machinedrum uw.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-17 06:44 [#02384536]
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Is the monomachine analogue? I can't say I look into much gear that's under 10 years old, I like my gear to come complete with a layer of dust pre-installed.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-17 07:06 [#02384537]
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Its completely analogue, has a built in 303 & moog filter, and has a button in the middle labeled awesome that automatically makes everything it makes sound good. It also has a button labeled suck, that makes everything it makes sound like Pawel wrote it.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-17 09:43 [#02384543]
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Gee wiz Dorothy! When you put it like that it sounds quite silky. What did you pay for it out of interest? Surely it can't sound as good as a 303? Nothing ever manages to sound as good as the original acid daddy.
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-17 20:15 [#02384579]
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You will love the MD! Get the UW+!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-18 04:10 [#02384633]
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Definitely. Its a bit more expensive than the monomachine, so its going to be some time coming.
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-22 09:06 [#02385053]
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Do you know if Amon Tobin uses one as well? Your name suggests you like him.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-22 18:21 [#02385091]
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I used to be a huge fan, but that has diminished. I have used this name for about 13 or 14 years on the internet, well before that movie came out.
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morguean
from Calgary (Canada) on 2010-06-23 19:53 [#02385151]
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This 'awesome' button you speak of, would it be FUNCTION? I know on the MD, the FUNCTION button is my best friend. YOu can just close your eyes, hold er down and twiddle accordingly and then magic occurs.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-23 19:59 [#02385152]
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Its the switch at the top right beside the DC IN.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2010-06-23 20:58 [#02385156]
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octa+mnm+md
stupid video but i guess it will sell a lot to newbies
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-25 09:09 [#02385272]
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Yeah, this video doesnt do anything for me.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-25 11:25 [#02385276]
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I still think that its kind of ridiculous to try to market a hardware sampler at this point in the game. I am sure the octatrak will sell plenty tho.
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-25 16:58 [#02385304]
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It's ridiculous as we've got plenty powerful computers, less ridiculous when you consider that, to really play the thing like a guitar or violin, you need a controller a la Faderfox, Maschine, et al, and not at all ridiculous when you see how nicely this box does it all, without having to stare at a computer screen and developing dry eye syndrome in the process ;-)
I, for one, am glad I have the machinedrum even though I own Battery, EXS24, Live, Kontakt, Ultrabeat....
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2010-06-26 00:07 [#02385353]
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yeah I'd much rather stare at a 40x40 pixelated screen with a red backround.
(nah, really; I get ya)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-26 02:28 [#02385359]
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Well, I am not talking about the Machinedrum. The sampler is really an important part of the UW Machinedrum, but the main thing is its a drum machine first. Having the ability to trigger samples in a manner that is workflow conducive to the rest of the device really makes sense.
My comment was targeted specifically at the Octatrak, wherein the main purpose of that device is acting as a sampler, with the secondary feature of acting as a central brain and mixer for a Machinedrum/Monomachine combo.
Coming from the perspective of someone who has relied upon hardware sampling for the greater part of the last six years; I don't think you can improve upon the options available to you with software samplers.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-26 02:32 [#02385360]
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Then again, the Machinedrum has seemed to revitalize peoples interests in hardware drum machines; I think the electronic music culture would be very different if it wasn't for that machine. Maybe the Octatrak can do the same for sampling.
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-27 10:06 [#02385438]
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Don't know if it would really be different if there was no Machinedrum as there are so many other products, do you really think it's so influential? In what way?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-28 04:26 [#02385534]
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Well, before widespread virtual instruments and sample banks, people used drum machines as their main beat programming interface. Most of what the classic drum machines do can be accomplished with software more or less successfully. I am not the kind of person who really thinks that a sequencer like the 808 really creates that much more of a magical experience for the user than something like D16 Drumazon. However, the elektron sequencer seems to make a lot of sense as a hardware box; it wouldn't nearly be as interesting or sensible in software format.
>shrug<
Kind of thinking out loud. There seems to be a reason why all these people who get one seem to go crazy over them. Autechre wrote an entire album using them. Despite what most of autechre's recent output sounds like (I am not a fan of stuff after EP7), I think that says something. Those guys are true nerds, and have practically every single sound design tool at their disposal, and they went balls out over these little machines.
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format
from Germany on 2010-06-28 11:48 [#02385543]
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Did they write Quaristice with these?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2010-06-28 14:44 [#02385552]
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Not sure about Quaristice, but they used them for Untitled.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2010-06-28 15:17 [#02385553]
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I believe there's a lot of Elektron gear used on Quaristice, yeah. like endless jams edited down.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2010-06-29 23:03 [#02385652]
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Yeah, Untilted has a lot of MD in it, LCC is pretty much default EFM machines. Quaristice has got loads of Elektron gear in too - bnc Castl is a Monomachine going apeshit for two minutes.
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format
from Germany on 2010-07-01 10:06 [#02385753]
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LCC is default machines? Do you hear it or did you read it somewhere?
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