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A response to "There is no meaning to life"
 

wizards teeth from inside a pelicans brain on 2001-03-10 09:54 [#00000860]



I think there is a meaning to life. To the people who say
there is no meaning to life: Have you ever made someone
laugh / cry / smile? If so you have influenced them and
changed their life slightly. If these changes never occurred
and the concept of emotions did not exist, then life would
be pointless.

It is a great feeling to feel sad one day then wake up the
next day and feel much better after something good has
happened.

Imagine if we just existed as humans in bodies and were
unable to think about things, think of new ideas or feel /
have opinions about scenarios. I believe having the power to
react to situations and decided the immediate future for
ourselves is the best reason for being alive

And that is why I am happy.

What I do not understand is - Why do people who live on the
same planet need to fight each other.

I know it is wrong but I sometimes dabble in the art of
MDMA. I do not abuse it.

Imagine if everyone in the world was given one of these
before each meal of the day, the world would be a happier /
more enjoyable place to live. I know this would be a
synthetic world of unreal happiness, but the present world
is a world of synthesised hatred and greed, money and
weapons cause people to develop the need for destruction.



 

think from lincoln,ne on 2001-03-10 16:51 [#00000866]



IM HAPPY, WHY ARE THE PEEPS SO STRESSED OUT? I QUESS IT WILL
ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.
MAYBE THIS "recession" IN THE ACCONOMY WILL MAKE THE PEEPS
BUY LESS AND REALIZE WHAT THEY DO HAVE.
P.S. NAME BRAND CLOTHING SUCKS


 

Scary Bear on 2001-03-10 18:16 [#00000872]



I've never taken E or any other sort of drug, unfortunatly I
want to know the sort of experiences that Richard went
though when he made the sounds that I love. That's acid
though, I don't know if I ever will. That is why I just want
to get lucid dreaming and stuff.

It's all so normal for people to say that synthetic
happiness isn't real, but when I think about it, I don't
know.


 

Mr. Bighead from Coolidge,AZ on 2001-03-10 20:23 [#00000873]



Our life is one big simulation. We sit in front of computer
screens and digital equipment all day. We make music and art
with these machines that are doomed to remember everything
we can't. We go to parties and dance to Artificial music all
night and take artificial drugs every weekend(or every
day).
Pretty soon we will have artificial brothers and sisters and
artificial prostheses.

AIDS is even a disease that was perhaps induced by
artificial means.

With the appearance of the birth control pill, sexual
promiscuity made a rapid crescendo and everybody began to
belong to everybody. That was an artificial sexual
revolution. A simulated revolution. AIDS was just an
allergic reaction to this false freedom.

We are living in the simulated world of a William Gibson
book, or "A Brave New World" by Alduous Huxley. We are the
apotheosis of this brave new world of simulation. If you
catch my drift...


 

hevquip from halfway between here and there on 2001-03-11 00:04 [#00000878]



has anyone heard of kierkagaards idea called existential
dread? existential dread promotes that life is a struggle
and the most you can do is accept the fact that nothing is
eternal and that we all die. given the fact that we all die,
and that there is nothing to stop such an act, why do
anything at all? it does not matter if how you go through
life, whether it be happy or sad, successful and prominent
or a failure. we think we need to feel or that we need to
search for what we dont know. its no good when it does not
influence cold and indifferent death. the only reason we try
to lead happy healthy lives in because we are delusional.
this is what we think we need. we are happy because we want
to forget death. we dont want to accept it.

war is nature. i believe we destroy others so that we do not
feel fragile and useless. we feel better knowing that we
have the power to destroy and that we can pass judgement
easier than we can forgive. but why forgive? the deed has
been done, but we still feel that we need the approval of
others. nothing is forever, so i dont think that anyone
should give a damn about anything really.


 

Ramalpha84 from Noo Zee Lund on 2001-03-11 02:15 [#00000883]



I have so much homework this weekend, but this year I'm very
happi and positive. I am having one of the greatest weekends
and yet I have to do so much weekend. We've been getting
some beautiful blue skys, but it's oddly cold here down
under.


 

think from lincoln,ne on 2001-03-11 03:37 [#00000887]



YEA about aids, its a bummer that the peeps think that its
all a hoak or its gone. its a freekin frackin disease, dont
let the media run your life. pay attention to the
consiquences.


 

and twenty phase from americhe on 2001-03-11 12:54 [#00000891]



I'm down w/ Existentialism and the like, but the way I see
it, if it doesn't matter how you go through life, why not
enjoy it? I like the whole "not give a damn about
anything" method though!! Makes things easier I suppose.
Why not just do some drugs and convince yourself its "All
OK">hehe
Mr Leary had many a good point:
Think for youself


 

od on 2001-03-11 13:07 [#00000892]



i think synthetic happiness is real happiness in the sense
that i have seen/done/heard/experienced to many damn funny
things whilst stoned. but thats stoned so maybe its not
really synthetic. Ive never done acid. Wouldnt mind giginv
it a go though...


 

hedtwin from manchester on 2001-03-11 13:57 [#00000894]



i got stoned last nite and suddenly decided it would be
really really funny to spray deoderant into my mouth.
BIIIIIIG mistake. I hope i never ever do that again.


 

hedtwin from manchester on 2001-03-11 13:58 [#00000895]



it was funny though!



 

3tapemixer&input from theastralshoppingcenter on 2001-03-11 14:54 [#00000898]



philosophy is like the maze of King Minos - it takes you
round in circles with loads of dead ends, and in the centre
is just old bull.


 

and twenty phase from americhe on 2001-03-11 16:37 [#00000903]



I've tried acid once. It was fucking fantastic really.
Only things I've done are pot and lsd. I'm all for
experimenting with chemicals. There is certainly more to
the mind than we are lead to believe, and I believe certain
substances have been "taken away" from us in order to keep
us from discovering anything substantial about ourselves.
(I've noticed that nowhere in school are you taught to do
what's right for YOU.)
Not to say that you NEED drugs for self-exploration, but it
surely opens many locked doors.


 

and twenty phase from americhe on 2001-03-11 16:38 [#00000904]



I've tried acid once. It was fucking fantastic really.
Only things I've done are pot and lsd. I'm all for
experimenting with chemicals. There is certainly more to
the mind than we are lead to believe, and I believe certain
substances have been "taken away" from us in order to keep
us from discovering anything substantial about ourselves.
(I've noticed that nowhere in school are you taught to do
what's right for YOU.)
Not to say that you NEED drugs for self-exploration, but it
surely opens many locked doors.


 

Ramalpha84 from Thames New Zealand on 2001-03-12 08:35 [#00000931]



Hey Hedtwin, did you try to light a match in your mouth or
breath fire?


 

Scary Bear on 2001-03-12 14:00 [#00000946]



Timothy Leary is actually a fucking interseting person and
after talking about all the right and wrongs of synthetic
feelings I am really interested in getting hold of the stuff
he wrote.

Has anyone ever read one of his books?

There are some wicked sites about this guy


 

wizards teeth from inside a pelicans brain on 2001-03-12 14:17 [#00000947]



Scary Bear - A good site to search for information about
people and drugs is "The Vaults of Erowid"


 

hevquip from crab bisquits on the corner of a concrete horse on 2001-03-12 15:10 [#00000948]



3tapemixer&input: i would have to agree with you on
philosophy. you end up with more questions than answers.

as the creatures we are, we look at the origins of the
beginning of life. we see that how we came to be is the
byproduct of the proper conditions and chance. we can see
the fact that in comparison, we are very insignificant and
truly cant hold our own. we rationalize that we have
importance and have a purpose to be here because we do not
want to know the truth that we all die.


 

Scary Bear on 2001-03-12 17:09 [#00000950]



Hevquip I know I am going to die, but instead of wasting
time waiting for death people choose to forget about it and
enjoy whatever they have. Philosophy always branches off to
more questions but that is logical. The only dead end is
when people say "man, I really cannot be fucked to look into
this any further".

I've got an idea in my head I don't know if I'm saying it
right. Am I making sense at all?


 

Scary Bear on 2001-03-12 17:10 [#00000951]



Teeth: I'd really like to go to www.erowid.org, unfortunatly
I am working on a student netwrok and the site is blocked.

I don't suppose you or anyone here knows websites which I
can look through to look at restricted sites.



 

CyberPfunk from Japan on 2001-03-13 13:07 [#00000991]



If anyone here has the opportunity to try LSD for the first
time, and decides to go for it, make sure you're in a good
state of mind. If you are depressed about stuff or if you
are going through a lot of hardships, your trip could be
really harsh. Also make sure you are with people that you
are close to. (Good friends not just party people.)
Especially for first timers, I would suggest a very
controlled environement. Country house/park/farm, if all
else fails a really compfy spacious apartment will do.
Personally, I value my experiences with LSD a great deal,
and while I am certainly no expert on the subject, I will
say this. It's your head, do with it what you will, but be
careful you may not like what lurks behind the closed doors
of your mind. A bad trip is something I wouldn't wish on my
worst enemy.
To: Scarey Bear
In many ways being on LSD is a Lucid Dream State. You are
sort of in control, but like in a dream you shouldn't try to
fight it when things get weird, just go with it. It's still
you in control it's just the subconcious you.
Sorry for gabbering so much, but some of you seemed
interested.
I really dig RDJ, you can really see the Acid influence in
his works. His ambient stuff is really good for coming down
off a trip. Which incidently is when you really question
whether or not there is meaning to life.
I say there is, at least in music and in art, and that it
comes from the pure naked emotions that we express through
those mediums.
Wouldn't you agree?



 

and twenty phase from younitedsteights on 2001-03-14 14:29 [#00001024]



I think thoughts travel in little "paths" through the mind
and after time passes, we get real comfortable with those
paths and use them over and over. Things like LSD allow us
to access new paths very immediately. Its kind of a shock,
hence the "trip", but the experience can be very very
valuable. Just my thoughts.


 

offline kurrrak from Bialystok (Poland) on 2003-03-25 14:27 [#00615762]
Points: 1264 Status: Lurker



nice topic


 


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