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offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-04-03 12:16 [#00156169]
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Here in Newcastle (and indeed throught the North East of
England) we have strange cultural phenomenon known as
"charvas". These are youths who wear alot of sportswear
(e.g. horrible Adidas, Ellesse, Kappa, etc tops), generally
have shaved heads, wear lots of gold jewellery, smoke loads
of cigarettes and cause quite a lot of hassle.

The magazine Viz has two characters that caricature Charvas
rather well: Kappa Slappa and Rat Boy - go to www.viz.co.uk
to check them out.

There is also a Charva website: www.charvas.co.uk and a site
for charva music: www.onthemic.co.uk

They take lots of ecstasy, smoke bad cheap hash and speak in
a very regional dialect. They also tend to punctuate every
sentence with the words "fuck" and "cunt" and basically have
no hope in life whatsoever. They are often parents before
the age of 18.

Do people in other parts of the country / the world also
have charvas? And if so, what are they like and what do you
call them?


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-04-03 12:21 [#00156172]
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yeah of course, with little differences, they don't have
much jewelry but they are crazy about gsm! and use other
word to punctuate their talk, but they seem to be the same!
we call various names depending of the area, i often call
them 'ron' or 'ronies'



 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 12:22 [#00156173]
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Wow, i thought my country had an exclusive right to this
kind of people. We have them, you bet you arse. Here, we
call them "dizelasi" which could be translated as "diesel
boys" as they were first famous for wearing these
ridiculously baggy diesel jeans. They listen to a lot of
cheap folk-tinged pop music over here and a lot of them are
criminals to an extent. They don't take that much E, though
(still a drug of choice for ravers etc.) and for some time
they were almost unified against drukqs, until the drukqs
kicked in heavily, so it's mostly pot, pills and heroin for
most of them today.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 12:27 [#00156175]
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we have loads of them around a shopping center here called
merry hill. we call them 'shoplifters'

manic-did you see billy connoly on monday night? he was
giving a tour of the north east- i learnt two things-what
'maccams' are and where the phrase 'geordie' came from.
doubt if hell come to brum though. all we have to show the
world is brown coloured canals and people with rediculously
stupid accents. like moi...i mean me.



 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-04-03 12:32 [#00156177]
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Nah, didn't see it actually. Wish I had though. I've given
up TV, which on the whole was a good choice, but sometimes I
wish I still watched it for things like that.

Yeah, maccams are people from Sunderland and Wearside, and
Geordies are from Newcastle and Tyneside. I think that's
the only difference. They absolutely hate each other, which
is quite spectacularly ridiculous, but quite funny at the
same time.

God, I am sick of it up here. I'm considering moving to the
South Coast after summer. Not sure how I'll afford it
though.


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 12:38 [#00156186]
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Heh heh. Charvas also favour the Rockport brand of clothing,
and will nearly always be wearing a cap. They need to be
culled, as their population is reaching epidemic
proportions...


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-04-03 12:39 [#00156188]
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Hey Chris - from Newcastle too?

Alright mate.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 13:12 [#00156213]
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In South Wales we call them Waynes as many of them are
called Wayne (apologies to anyone named Wayne). They drive
suped-up small cars and fit the below description.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 13:14 [#00156216]
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We? You're from Nottingham!

Oh wait, maybe you moved...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 13:15 [#00156219]
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Where did the word Charvas come from?

You could call them the urban working class - scum.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 13:15 [#00156221]
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Yeah, moved from Penarth nr Cardiff you Jack bastard (just
kidding).


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 13:15 [#00156223]
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We used to call em townies, or Kappa Kunts, but now there's
even skater and metal kids acting the same way with
different clothes. I just call em 'people', and never go
out.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 13:16 [#00156224]
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Then you might be looking forward to the upcoming welsh cup
final, as I am... heh heh


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 13:19 [#00156229]
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Nah, I hate football.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 13:20 [#00156231]
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I didn't mention the football, I was talking about the
fighting =o)


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 13:21 [#00156232]
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Oh right. Um, I'm not much of a fighter. Are you a Swansea
supporter then?

I never understood the hatred between them.


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 14:58 [#00156323]
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About the Nu-Metal kids, we have stacks of them in
Newcastle, and they ALL hang round in this one place (The
Green) and do fuck-all all day, except 'hang out' and try
and look cool. Fucking 12 year old morons with Slipknot
hoodies and blue hair. "I'm just expressing my
individualism", they protest. Bollocks, mate - you all look
the same with your silly hair and your oversized jeans.

Most of them will have grown out of it by the time they're
18 too....


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-04-03 15:02 [#00156329]
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Oh my god, Ochre, you’re so right on that one. There are
loads of them, and in a way they’re even more annoying
than charvas. That “individuality” garbage is perhaps
the most annoying thing of all about them. We call them
“chundermongs”, because they seem to think they’re
well ‘ardcore, but whenever we seem them at parties and
that they always seem to chunder really early on and then
mong.

By the way, seeing as we both live in Newcastle, do you
fancy collaborating music-wise? You can hear my music at
http://www.yorklabs.co.uk/manicminer

Email me to let me know
Tim



 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 15:06 [#00156336]
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I've always fould it difficult to work with anyone on
electronic music, as I generally sit infront of the PC
fiddling with stuff, programming notes in etc (I don't even
have a MIDI keyboard). I'm not much of a spontaneous
writer, so I'd probably just sit around and get embarrassed.


 

offline Chris Ochre on 2002-04-03 15:08 [#00156337]
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Not that I won't have a think about it. Where do you live?
Wizards Teeth might be up for some collab.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-04-03 15:11 [#00156340]
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I live in Sandyford (near Jesmond / Heaton).

I'm not spontaneous either and also just use software
without a MIDI keyboard. THe best way to do it would be to
exchange samples and stuff via the web I suppose. Like a
lot of my tunes are half-finished and I don't know how to
take them further, so I would like someone to collaborate
with me by finishing them. And I would like to do the same.
Also, remixing each other's tracks.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 15:21 [#00156349]
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I read an NME article last summer about moshers and townies.
Apparently the townies mugg and harass the moshers in many
cities around the country.

The other Saturday I was in town and this mosher kid ran up
to me asking me to help his friend who was being attacked by
some townie, council estate kids. I quickly intervened and
saved the young middle class boy in the Slipknot T-shirt. I
told the working class townies to bgo back to their alkie
parents on their council estate.


 


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