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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-09-13 05:21 [#02325491]
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i just upgraded to snow leopard (the new mac os x verison) and my ableton 7 started crashing incessantly. turns out this is a widespread problem, particularly when using the complex resampling method.
ableton have said there will probably be a patch for 7 in the future, but it's not definite.
just wanted to put that out there for anyone who is considering upgrading to 10.6. fortunately i have a second hard drive with a separate install of 10.5 dedicated for working on music, but for now i'm stuck with working on music at home.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-13 05:25 [#02325496]
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:(
thanks for the heads up man.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-13 06:07 [#02325503]
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no quirks with live 8 here so far. what do you mean by complex resampling method? like recording in resampling mode?
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-09-13 06:08 [#02325505]
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Traktor 3 with snow leopard doesnt work at all. maybe you can play a few tracks, but try closing the program, and you'll see an error message from hell. NI has no plans on patching up T3 for SL
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2009-09-13 06:39 [#02325509]
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So they basically say "fuck it, not important" ? That's fucking terrible.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-09-13 06:51 [#02325511]
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i just recently bought traktor 3, of course now that traktor pro is out, they've discontinued updates for traktor 3. i guess that includes patches for making the bloody thing work on snow leopard.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-13 06:58 [#02325512]
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impressive tutorial imo
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-13 08:58 [#02325560]
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IT JUST WORKS
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-13 09:11 [#02325566]
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advice, when you found a version of OSX that doesn't give you permissions/whatever issues just stick with it, unless you really need it
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-09-13 09:41 [#02325581]
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when you have an audio sample in live, there are a number of methods to resample/time stretch the audio. beat is the default, then there's also texture and a couple others, then there's complex, the only one which sounds decent.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2009-09-13 10:14 [#02325585]
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This is why I get so annoyed when people think Apple computers are so amazing and worth the expense.
Clearly they're just as crap as any other modern computer.
I think this was the peak of computer music technology - that "just works".
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-09-13 10:16 [#02325586]
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i think "it just works" should be changed to "it just works better than windows," which still very much holds true. there's really no bitching with that.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-09-13 10:52 [#02325592]
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it's just that apple can play the "fuck backwards compatibility"-card from time to time. it's not that they didn't warn people or something.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-09-13 10:59 [#02325594]
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ohman, i just love reading rants about the inferiority/superiority of a particular operating system
NEVER GETS OLD
apart from that , i didnt notice any odd things happening on my system, mind you i strictly use pitch mode on ables. and i've got a g5 to do the main sequencing, but i hope they sort this thing out, that and the traktor 3 kinks. let's go 64bit everybody!
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-13 11:06 [#02325598]
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what did you think about my contribution in particular vlari
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-13 11:07 [#02325599]
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as a general rule if you're using pro audio/video software and a new OS comes out you should never upgrade until they have ironed out bugs and sorted out the updates
I still use tiger 10.4
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-09-13 11:12 [#02325601]
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it was wikka wikka fresssssh
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-13 11:19 [#02325604]
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lol
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2009-09-13 11:23 [#02325606]
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there's some people still using Mac OS 9.22
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-13 14:08 [#02325693]
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omg realtime computer panel!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-13 15:15 [#02325709]
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10.5.7 here
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-13 15:19 [#02325710]
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i'm having no troubles on 10.6.1 really except for safari adblock.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-09-13 16:02 [#02325717]
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Apple has made some mistakes here that they could have learned from microsoft. Microsoft learned their lessons, now it is apples turn.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-13 16:22 [#02325729]
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10.6 is the result of Apple doing the exact opposite of Microsoft's mistakes though, getting rid of old frameworks instead of carrying them over to the next OS. This is bad of course for anyone who uses older hardware/software, however the list of stuff not working with Snow Leopard is actually quite short. OS tasks (Finder etc.) are somewhat snappier than with Leopard and there are a few usability tweaks but all in all nothing too major, and there is almost no software around that takes advantage of the new architecture yet, so if you fear stuff not working, just don't upgrade, nobody forces you. conclusion: Blech
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-09-13 16:36 [#02325732]
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Well, regardless. What apple did here was release an OS without giving much in the way of regard for what their userbase actually needs the OS for.
But hey; finder works better. Thats awesome. In the vista upgrade, I found that explorer had some functionality that it didn't have before. It was also much more stable, it just responded a little bit slower.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-09-13 17:37 [#02325743]
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well dunno works for me. here's hoping for quite a performance boost in upcoming versions of software that does a lot of parallel math, i.e. imaging/video apps, maybe music apps too (real time analysis and whatnot). It's all about software companies putting the 64bit tech to good use now.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-13 19:17 [#02325758]
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Snow Leopard Compatibility List
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-13 21:04 [#02325764]
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i'm having no troubles on 10.6.1 really except for safari adblock.
just took a look around, try Cmd+I on Safari icon, check "open in 32bit" or something similar maybe it works
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