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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-09-09 02:32 [#02324246]
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mmmmm
will you be getting it? individual albums maybe? or the mono versions?
i will at some point probably get this set. it looks good, except for the fact that the cds are apparently stuffed into those narrow cardboard sleeves. Can you believe they went for that stupid design?
The Beatles, oh yes!
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2009-09-09 03:19 [#02324250]
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fuck YES! I will absolutely "get" this.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-09 03:20 [#02324251]
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I was going to make a thread, a pretty big event in the music industry really... i've been waiting years for remastered albums, always thought the tinny sound ruined the albums on cd.
I'll certainly be buying a couple of my faves, Revolver definitely, probably White album and maybe Abbey Road.
Not really sure about mono, I thought most of the latter albums were in stereo anyway, these aren't being released in mono are they?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-09-09 03:34 [#02324256]
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i'd highly recommend going to mono mixes.
the problem is that back in the day, studio technicians were still learning how to mix with two channels. they thought it was to allow for separation of certain parts so that they would be more easily discerned on a home hifi. just listen to sgt pepper's with headphones and you'll notice all of the hard panning given to vocal and guitar parts - it really gets quite annoying.
now we've figured out that stereo mixing is best used to create a sound scape which more approximates the way our brain interprets sound from two different sources, but they didn't know that yet.
however, the same technicians had been perfecting the art of mono mixes for decades at this point. the result is much clearer sound, despite what one may expect. like i said, sgt pepper's is the best example of this discrepancy - i found bits of sound which i had previously no idea were in the mix, and i went in expecting completely the opposite. seriously, it makes it a whole new record.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2009-09-09 03:47 [#02324259]
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All their albums except the last two (Abbey Road/Let it Be are stereo only) are in the mono box set, and were/are generally agreed upon as the definitive versions by the Beatles and their producer/engineers. They didn't really give a shit about stereo mixes, they were done after the mono mixes with no input by the Beatles themselves.
It's hard to listen to some of the stereo mixes on headphones and have the drums in one ear, it makes the songs sound weak. Pretty much ruins songs like Lovely Rita, for me. The mono mixes aren't as goofy and have more punch.
Anyway yeah, I'm getting both sets and I've been listening to them for a few days now. It's nothing revelatory but it's a decent upgrade and the low end got a much needed boost in the stereo albums.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2009-09-09 03:50 [#02324261]
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Stereo remixes are probably coming next year, with reasonable panning. Actually I think the mixes in Rock Band are new and not as gimmicky, can't wait for someone to rip them.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-09-09 04:00 [#02324262]
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ive been reading a lot of these mono vs stereo discussions. considering i've never heard any of the original mono recordings, i'm guessing there won't be too much of a loss when just going through all of it in stereo.
why would this team of sound engineers go through all this trouble to remaster everything in stereo if it weren't worth the effort? would they or anyone settle for a less than excellent final product? maybe i'm being naive here but considering the very modest pricetag i'm not convinced this is just a quick cash grab.
ophecks, i feel kind of bad. it feels like i stole your thread but your input will save it.
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rad smiles
on 2009-09-09 06:17 [#02324296]
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you summed up my struggle to a T. i settled upon the stereo box and i feel okay with it.
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2009-09-09 07:03 [#02324302]
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I think they probably did it cos they know most modern record buyers would be put off by buying music in mono and complain that it sucked even tho if you compare the mono + stereo mixes the mono ones sound a lot better. and yes People ARE that stupid
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-09 07:08 [#02324304]
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people are strange
woops wrong band
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2009-09-09 08:33 [#02324317]
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I don't think you're missing out by sticking with the stereo. There's something to be said for the extra clarity and more dynamic soundstage. Certainly their more ornate arrangements have extra room to breathe in stereo versus the packed mono. I tend to prefer the mono but it's more of a lesser-of-two-evils thing for me, there's trade-offs no matter what you listen to. Ringo just tends to get to the shaft on the stereo mixes and that bugs me too much.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2009-09-09 08:44 [#02324323]
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To me the one album where stereo gets a decisive win is Beatles for Sale, crystal clear lead guitar that gets buried in the mono mix
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-09-09 09:05 [#02324326]
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cheers ophecks. I was starting to have doubts about the stereo box again. Another reason to get the stereo versions though is for the fact that it has all albums. I could always decide to buy separate mono versions later (and maybe sell the stereo ones).
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yoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2009-09-13 11:52 [#02325625]
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i did order every album except yellow submarine(who i dont think is that good) induvidual today + past masters vol 1 and 2: 2009 remaster. was abit cheaper then if i would have gotten the stereo box, the mono box was more pricey then the stereo box.i dont care much for the extra stuff.
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-13 12:12 [#02325632]
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bealtes are the best idm wait there not idm at all fuck you xltronic. wake me up when the autechre remix comes out
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-13 12:15 [#02325634]
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beatles <<
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-09-13 12:15 [#02325635]
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dumb xltronic
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