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freqy
on 2009-09-05 07:22 [#02322960]
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( i composed this message yet i feel sad to lay it on you. however its one of those things that from time to time perhaps we need to be reminded of that evil comes in many foul flavours)
This video may be tame in comparison to the many others,however , yes, this is just 1 in a trillion views of abuse in the past few years alone.
Everyone pays for it. even the most ethically minded through government tax.
This period in human history is the most barbaric toward innocent life, all hidden away in government/multinational approved ,public funded/built facilities.
abuse warning.
Dear sweet innocent little bunnies:
hidden away because it is so obviously immoral ...yet leg...
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-09-05 08:30 [#02322964]
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maybe those young students have been anaesthetized as well
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-05 09:40 [#02322972]
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Hm, maybe I just sound like an idiot for saying this, but I don't feel like I will gain anything from watching this video, Freqs. I know things like this happen. I would like to do something about it, but what could I do? What will you do? The only thing to do, IMO, is to do things oneself which one considers positive in its contribution to the world.
Therefore, as I am never going to overdose rabbits with drugs in a bin, then throw them in a bin, I don't feel I will gain anything from watching the vid.
But thanks for appealing to my macabre side and making me want to watch the vid... :'(
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freqy
on 2009-09-05 10:02 [#02322977]
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i havent tried to make you watch anything. I warned in the message what was in the vid. And this is not for you or me, this is for the billions of suffering lifeforms ( rabbits pigs , sheep, monkeys, cats ,dogs) . i knew someone would moan about it, But I felt compeled to hit send, because this is important we know what we pay for. its so rarely spoken about. Everyone can do something, but only if they care enough to. I found a list of products that are not tested on animals, so will not be funding evil hell bend companies directly from my pocket as much as before.
its truly ****** up!
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cx
from Norway on 2009-09-05 11:28 [#02322985]
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watching them petting the rabbit while it was lying there with a cut open throat actually made my heart speed up a bit.
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 11:41 [#02322988]
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Not gonna watch. I've seen enough. Percy Bysshe Shelley must be shocked (from his grave).
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-09-05 11:58 [#02322991]
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I conscientiously avoided watching this video, only to stumble on an article about a cat getting shot in the head with a bow and arrow (thankfully it survived). It seems there's just no avoiding animal cruelty today. I fucking hate this world.
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toby
from ^_^ (China) on 2009-09-05 12:01 [#02322995]
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is so sad rabbit (and many other creature too) get chopped up alive. is hard cos they must feel pain in strange way as they do not even have inteligence enough to contemplate why or how this awful pain happen. but is perhaps necessity video does not explain
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toby
from ^_^ (China) on 2009-09-05 12:05 [#02322996]
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also pls find special love for life as all thing are made of wide smiles and somtimes cry. alway ALWAYS remember the beauty sides of life ^_^. it is all there ;p do not be selective on bad human moment!!!
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 12:07 [#02322998]
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Next you'll be saying animals don't know what fear is! Just by looking into an animal's eyes you can tell how clever it is. If a prey was as dumb as you make out, it wouldn't even bother running away.
Here's a smile though : )
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 12:09 [#02322999]
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I guess this is the bit when someone tells me all about how we 'humanize' our pets etc...
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toby
from ^_^ (China) on 2009-09-05 12:13 [#02323001]
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i just sayin that it is so bad for the animal that does not even have word to describe this pain. does not even have reason
it would all just be a big red hurt feeling.
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 12:16 [#02323003]
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Learn sign language and ask a chimp or ourang outan!
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cx
from Norway on 2009-09-05 12:33 [#02323005]
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how the fuck are you petting an animal while you tie it down and cut it open involuntarily, is it supposed to make the rabbit feel better?
fuck you and your sociopath nature. you disgust me
also i agree with toby. it probably feels an even more raw and direct pain and fear, because humans can distance themselves a bit from it with language and abstract thought. we can think rationally and try to cope. rabbits just feel it directly. most be like dreams for humans.
animal abuse is some of the worst abuse there is, and i really cant comprehend how otherwise normal people can just watch a rabbit get dissected and killed like that.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-09-05 12:40 [#02323007]
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i hope you all are vegetarians because just because a rabbit is a little cuter than a pig doesn't mean it's any less alive. Just saying this to those who are talking about 'animal cruelty'
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-09-05 12:41 [#02323008]
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*vegans
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-09-05 12:41 [#02323009]
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also fuck that dumb scary music. It doesn't change anything.
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 12:43 [#02323010]
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". it probably feels an even more raw and direct pain and fear, because humans can distance themselves a bit from it with language and abstract thought. "
Ha ha! probably then. Though what you're saying goes both ways. You can also make it a lot worse for yourself.
We all agree mostly though. I remember seing a video recorded in China. I'll never forget it.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-09-05 12:44 [#02323012]
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i agree though this overall just fucking horrible. Poor things. Stupid humans don't even realize what they are doing.
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cx
from Norway on 2009-09-05 12:44 [#02323013]
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hmm yeah that is true. i dont condone violence towards humans either tho, so whatever :P
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 12:45 [#02323014]
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I'm a vegetarian. Though i like the taste of meat.
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 12:46 [#02323015]
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I thought you were all for murdering people!
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-09-05 12:48 [#02323017]
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i like the taste of meat, and really can't avoid it right now, so i'm ok with feeling like a fuckface surviving off of the laziness of others, becasue right now i am lazy myself in that regard.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-05 12:58 [#02323021]
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Sorry mate, I didn't mean to have a go. *hugs*
I know what you mean. I used to be meticulous about only using products not tested on animals (and I still do when possible). However, I now realise that it can become impractical to always use not-animal-tested products. For example, when people buy you toiletries, which of course you don't have a choice of the brand for. Then you kinda have to use them. You could throw them away, but that would be ridiculous. I guess you could pass them onto someone else who would find a better use for them.
Anyway, I am with you. Even if you simply raise awareness about such subjects as this, you will be improving the world in a small way. Keep it up, lad! :)
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-05 13:03 [#02323024]
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Then you have no conscience, surely?
The fact that you feel what you are doing is wrong, but you do it anyway is worse than not thinking you are wrong for your behaviour.
Know wha'm sayin', killah? ;)
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-09-05 13:04 [#02323025]
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you're right.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-09-05 18:05 [#02323104]
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"how the fuck are you petting an animal while you tie it down
and cut it open involuntarily, is it supposed to make the rabbit feel better? fuck you and your sociopath nature. you disgust me"
well i look at it as a quite touching example of human compassion winning thru even when called upon to be completely heartless.
a few years ago i was sitting in the garden smoking a spliff and enjoying the sun when i hear this deep squishy crunching sound. i turn and see my cat eating a rabbit, head first (cats like eating the heads off of things for some reason). it was twitching a bit, prolly just motor reflexes. i sat and watched her eat the whole rabbit face. life is this image
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RussellDust
on 2009-09-05 18:11 [#02323110]
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"life is this image "
Ha ha! Typical cat owner!
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-09-05 18:13 [#02323113]
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i watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-05 18:16 [#02323114]
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Wasnt that an elias merhige films opening shot?
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atwood
from The Library (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-05 18:17 [#02323115]
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shit. it wasnt a snail it was god. sorry
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-09-05 18:24 [#02323118]
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apocalypse now
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cx
from Norway on 2009-09-05 21:46 [#02323152]
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Well, to get philosophical or something.. The universe is made this way, cruelty exists. You can't really blame a cat for eating a rabbit. But I think you can blame humans for doing this to rabbits.
This is something that isn't necessary, and humans can be better than that. We have a choice. The cat doesn't. The cat has no choice but to eat the rabbit, that's how it's built.
Maybe they also were innocent. Maybe they had a different way of looking at it (some things are necessary for the progression of science etc) that's fine. I dunno
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-06 08:43 [#02323205]
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Srsly?
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-09-06 11:33 [#02323266]
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i didn't know a cat could eat a rabbit, i thought they only eat smaller things like mice
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-09-06 14:58 [#02323304]
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Actually Ampi's story is likely true. Many years ago, I found a dead rabbit on my back porch with the top of its head eaten off and its brain exposed. I'm certain it was one of the various stray cats on my street that did it. Sometimes I think they kill purely out of instinct, even if they don't need the nourishment. I could never understand why the rabbit needed to die... less than 5% of its flesh was eaten.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-09-06 15:33 [#02323313]
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yea honestly ive seen my cats do that plenty and they never did it for food. the brains are probably squishy and fun to eat as a snack.
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