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I used to hang out on this board a lot about 7 or 8 years ago but haven't been here for a long time.. Also used to listen to IDM a lot and collected A LOT of records, but tastes have changed a bit over last few years and don't really listen to them so much anymore. Was just looking at Aphex records on ebay a minute ago and amazed by how cheap they all seem to be now - for example Pac Man powerpill there is a buy it now copy for 10 quid - i can remember that going for 20 or 30 quid back in the day. Also loads of records nobody bidding on, am sure prices were a lot higher a few years ago. Does nobody collect records any more, or does nobody want to collect Aphex stuff? Or something else that i didn't think of? Hello again xltronic, btw. |
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didnt buy them in the first place its like listening to machine gun fire |
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lol they're not as bad as autechre tho lol that just sounds like a machine farting lol1 bridget midget |
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is it really twins then? |
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i have seen a cardboard box full of melodies from mars at Lidl |
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this is clearly the wrong forum for that kind of question nowadays. we only talk about the excellent beverage tronic as idm died in the last great musical armageddon of '05. |
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why buy cds vinyl when mp3s are so cheap? this is why not many people buy records any more. mp3s never wear out or break unlike cds or vinyl. mp3s sound nicer than cd(too clean) or vinyl(too popoy and crackly) |
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"Does nobody collect records any more, or does nobody want to collect Aphex stuff? - TokyoJo" Collect. I wouldn't find it very satisfying to collect Mp3s. "Oo Entire Aphex collection torrent?" BAM! Done. People don't buy records because they're cheap or don't wear out. They buy them because they're physical and feel more real. Something you can really collect. And the raw sound of vinyl is a really comforting sound imo. It's a shame this place has so many people who don't like IDM. |
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It's a shame this place has so many people who don't like IDM. thats cos a lot of people here started listening to music ages before the IDM room was created, and filled with the most representative nerds of the internet planet |
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I started listening to electronic music in 1995 and that was a time when things were really creative and new, now it's completely saturated and it's more about style and attitude. :(( that's why people don't wanna listen to my radio last night, cus i play music from mid 90s to 2000 |
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no but have a hard drive failure, and all your music is gone. well done. fuck digital |
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and you have a fire and all your vinyl melts. I can just go and download everything again for free. Or i could do what I actually do and keep a backup of all my files. music for me isn't about collecting, so I could care less about a physical medium. MOST OF ALL, I PREFER THE SOUND OF MP3 OVER CD OR VINYL. |
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stamps are about collecting |
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you prefer the sound of lost frequencies, a disfigured dynamic range, and additional artefacts such as wishy-washy high-hats over a CD? i'm not even gonna get into the subject of vinyl. and also, there's a much higher likelihood of your hard drive being zapped than there being a fire in my house. also backups are not a 100% guarantee of archiving - unless you do CRC and MD5 checks on everything you "backup", don't be so sure that your music is backed up. in the past i've lost quite a lot of music due to shit hard drives / shit operating systems that can't copy files properly. |
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but music is and artefact! |
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jesus christ, |
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my afx vynils |
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yep, as i have said twice already, I prefer the sound of mp3s over the sound of either vinyl or CD. if you didn't realise already, everyone has different tastes and perceptions. some people enjoy the noise/hum/hiss/wobble of vinyl, some enjoy the peculiarities of tape, some the clarity of CD and some the digital weirdness of 64kbps mp3s. |
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i have backups on DVDs, portable disc drives and on web storage. the chance of them all being lost is probably simlar to your collection of vinyl going up in smoke in a fire. |
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CRC MD5 copying errors :) |
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scratches, spliff burns, sun warping |
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ok,i'm not an aphex fan in any format i do however own around 3k records about 1 k cd's and about 4k mp3's-all bought btw to all you fucking leaching freeloading twats. So-vinyl is still the best format,but in all fairness ive stopped buying because.....well it's 2009 if i play out in a club thats set up for digital,then of course cds and mp3's will sound better. the only clear way to solve this is for us all to wear a t shirt with our fav formats wrote on then fight it out last man wins. |
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*puts on hanal shirt, grabs a beer, takes a seat ad puts arm around midget's shoulder* |
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Good man. if you call round in a couple of hours we could go for a game of pool or two. |
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Good! Let's see who's better with the sticks and the balls! |
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its strip pool |
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where is woofter? we need a woofter in the pool. strip or no strip. |
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cornwalleels |
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in your pants |
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no |
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differences between digital and analogue: if there's a few scratches, the record is still listenable. if there's missing data, you'll more than likely have a completely corrupt song. same with the difference between digital and analogue satellite TV. if there's bad weather, at least you could still see and hear it albeit with snow or whatever. with digital, if there's bad weather you either have signal or you don't. also, i don't smoke and keep my records out of the sun woooooo format wars |
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Does AFX make records anymore? |
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More people are selling their collections due to economic difficulties. The supply increases. Fewer people are able to purchase collectibles due to economic difficulties. The demand decreases. Increased supply and decreased demand means prices fall. |
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nerd |
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if an mp3 becomes corrupt (never happened to me in 12 yearsof listening to mp3s) I'll just download the track again. vinyl only deteriorates, mp3s are eternal |
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mp3s are eternal, for as long as the format is supported. think about it, you can't play an mp3 in 20 years when your quantum computer has no software to decode the bits. |
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theyll be a converter |
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unlikely. if enough people still have mp3s, someone will create software to play them. |
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if if if... well that might be the case, but the same holds for vinyl, cassettes and cd's. an mp3 is just another format in a long line. instead of physical degradation, you're now stuck with technical degradation. and seeing how fast computer related technologies evolve, mp3's might degrade even faster than a cd. at some point there's going to be another one of those not backwards compatible technological developments which will be sooo much better than mp3. and people will move to the new format like they did when the cd was brought to the market. i do understand your point though. i'm just being in a devil's advocate mode. |
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you bough 4000 mp3's? flip! |
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then people can just use a batch processor to convert their mp3s to the new format. you can't do that with CD or vinyl (unless you convert to mp3 or the future format) |
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i am actually certain about this:- mp3's and CD's should be phased out asap. they were good / they were bad / but they are now over except for filing/casual skipping thru/general research/reference. 1TB drives ate £70 now and that's in the expensive uk so the future is wav files (plus vinyl wherever desired or feesible) please nobody stand up for mp3 or cd any more? look at what's happened, what's happening, what will happen wav and vinyl = in mp3 + cd = out ps idm = never actually existed, only half the big names deserve to be so, the other half were hype |
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before you say it, wavs are more universal than aiffs so thats why it has to be wav not aiff flac can lick my balls |
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completely wrong on every count |
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thanks for admitting that |
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im new why is flac bad? |
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oscillk is right about the frequencies being taken away, the encoder basically gets rid of very low and very high frequencies which supposedly we can't hear, but taking them away will still effect how you perceive the sound, in basic terms you are being robbed of the songs original clarity and given an approximation of the original song. Most people are under the illusion that an mp3 is the same quality as CD, which simply isn't true, by saying you prefer mp3 over other formats, is like saying you wish that your hearing was impaired . if you prefer the format for ease of storage/management , then fair enough. if you wanna hear a 64kbps mp3 with missing frequencies over an original 192Khz WAV then my guess is that you probably like listening to 8 bit gaba music at raves |
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what makes wav so much better than flac? |
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nothing besides taking up more disk space and maybe some cpu cycles for the flac decoding. read: none |
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