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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-08-17 10:56 [#02315925]
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i use ableton live and i've made some mixes in it. i used to get pretty defensive when people would talk down on laying out a mix rather than doing it live. lately though it just isn't that fun to try and do something very long that way, and also i don't think it works as well. the beat analysis isn't always on for a whole track, and so little weird skippy things happen, or it takes out the groove or shuffle etc. if you have complex bass and drums like in some dubstep, forget it. i've had to do split second tempo changes in the project just to keep the tempo the same because i had to turn warping off on a track because the analysis was so shit. it just seems in general like a lot of unnecessary work to iron out problems, and you end up doing too much fuckery to overcompensate for the fact you're not doing it live.
i am still about doing remixes and mashups in there, but i think then i would just use those as another track in a live mix. so i guess traktor is the standard? i know it utilizes some kind of beat analysis, but does it seem to work better for live mixing? also, do i need a special mixer to cue up tracks before i send them to the main mix. i have a tascam 428 with assignable controllers and a seperate phone gain from the main gain, but dunno if i can send the cue mix to just the phones.
any advice etc. would be swell.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-08-17 17:43 [#02316028]
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cool
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-08-17 18:25 [#02316047]
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yea it's ok
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2009-08-18 07:05 [#02316112]
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What you need to do is warp the tracks manually. Don't trust the auto warp.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-08-18 12:42 [#02316170]
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yeah fuck auto warp. what you do is save each track as an individual live set, already manually warped. you can have a couple different cues points etc. set up. no headphone cueing necesary. then you have a blank live set with as many "turntables" and effects you want. then live you can just drag and drop your tracks from the browser and launch them in real time. this is the way i've been mixing live for about two years now and i love it. lemme know if you want more info, i'd be glad to give it.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-08-18 12:44 [#02316171]
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h i forgot to mention an obvious but important part: when manually beat matching your tracks, the metronome will be your best friend. also, don't try to adjust the autowarping done by live - when you bring a track in, click the first warp point, ctrl/apple-a and delete all of them, then start from scratch.
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