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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-03 07:51 [#02262047]
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you go first
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-03 07:57 [#02262048]
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i like this one,
"The creation proves the creator"
This is called circular reasoning. By calling the universe a 'creation' you have already assumed the creator.
Try "The universe proves the universitor"..
um that does not make sense. Like the entire idea of this god-character.
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catfood03
on 2009-01-03 08:13 [#02262049]
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there are a few good arguments made in the comment section of that video.
showing the canyons (at 1:04) does not prove a worldwide flood.
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basically, my question would be who created the creator?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-03 08:16 [#02262050]
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straightpeanuts so how was this 'creator' created?
ceiu1967 Who ever said that the creator was created? You? Who are you? With a little research you would have found that the creator resides in eternity. Do you understand even an idea of what that means? Obviously not.
straightpeanuts that makes no sense. how can something so intelligent and smart, obviously needing a creator itself, have just been there throughout eternity?
ceiu1967 You still don't have the concept of eternity. There is no "throughout" in eternity. Eternity is the absence of time. 6000 years ago is a human thing, not a Creator thing.
I don't claim to know it all, I have faith in something greater than myself, as do you. Through years of personal research, I have decided that this faith I have is right for me. It doesn't matter to me if the creator was created, or just exists, it matters that something greater than me has dominion in my life.
straightpeanuts actually i don't belive in anything more powerful than myself, because i can't really grasp a concept of a purpose to all of this 'worshiping', i live life not worrying about whats going to happen to me when i die, or about if someone ive never met will be mad at me for sinning, but you go have fun doing it.
straightpeanuts k nvm all this, i just realized that i don't care.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2009-01-03 10:13 [#02262058]
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Since when does a shadow prove a sun?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-03 10:20 [#02262060]
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That video is its own crippling argument against itself. You can't just say that already-explained natural phenomena (like thunder or water erosion) prove the existence of God. This just shows that desperate people will latch on to anything. God not showing up? Oh, he must be that newspaper on the coffee table.
I agree with J198: "if god existed i don't think he would be happy after seeing this video."
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-03 10:30 [#02262063]
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indeed. if there were a god there'd be no xltronic
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2009-01-03 10:32 [#02262065]
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This made me chuckle:
It's sad that people have no trouble believing this, but for some reason mock the notion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster as our all seing, all powerful meatball in the sky, blessing all with his noodly appendage!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-03 10:35 [#02262066]
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i pray fourteen times a day to the spaghetti monster with two six hour sessions of physical self disciple. mainly whipping and slashing my kneecaps.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-03 10:39 [#02262069]
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I'm convinced that the first man to turn water into Marinara is the messiah.
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2009-01-03 10:43 [#02262071]
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"proof" denies faith, QED, getdafuckouttahere
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2009-01-03 10:47 [#02262072]
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these christian videos always have cheesy dramatic music and images along with their shitty circular arguments.
the atheist videos are usually just some angry metal dude with a webcam, shooting fish in a barrel.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-03 10:48 [#02262073]
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Q: What is christianity?
A: It is the belief that a two-thousand-year-old jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple off a magical tree in a wonderland.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2009-01-03 13:09 [#02262099]
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this stomach pain proves i had too much dressing on my salad
and my stomach proves that i was created to have one
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-03 13:30 [#02262101]
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check out this message i just got
Despite your assertion that the word "theory" as applied to science is a highly regarded term, it does not take away or add to the facts. Theory is a school of thought yet to be proven. The problem with science is that it has taken many theories as fact, and applied it to evidence which consequently has been like building a house upon the sand. Then this theory as it is further built must be protected because it does not stand up to scrutiny. Any opposing theories, especially if it introduces the possibility of an intelligent creator, must be squashed. This is the movement we are living today. Evolution is bunk, excepting one of the 6 criteria that scientists have conjured to encompass the evolution theory. We assimilate. We lose genetic material as it becomes useless to our survival. Organisms do not obtain additional genetic material, never have, never will. We were complete to begin with. Evolution is the exact opposite of a much more plausible theory. Scientists who have embraced the flawed Darwinian school of thought as fact, and have also embraced the atheistic movement, cannot be objective about their study of the origin of life. They have embraced as truth the unproven theory, and therefore eliminated evidence that would be contrary to the proof of evolution. Scientists who debunk all other theories as to the origin of lfe are no longer being objective. For evolution to be a fact, it must fulfill the 6 criteria. It doesn't. The belief in evolution, as a whole, is as blind as believing the world is flat. All credibility for any scientist who investigates evidence based on evolution, is lost. He/she is no longer a scientist, but rather a cult follower. Period.
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catfood03
on 2009-01-03 17:54 [#02262133]
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well, if you're gonna put it THAT way... it does seem kinda crazy!
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2009-01-03 17:59 [#02262134]
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"It doesn't matter to me if the creator was created, or just exists, it matters that something greater than me has dominion in my life."
wow, i can't even fathom the logic behind this. If he wants to be dominated by something/someone greater than himself, why doesn't he join a leather boys' club?
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2009-01-03 18:01 [#02262135]
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that's a good quote
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2009-01-04 06:44 [#02262203]
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this man says it best
Take your god and shove him
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