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sampling drums vs. programming drums
 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-10-25 04:29 [#02248029]
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what is the advantage to sampling someone else's loop?

Is it just a laziness thing?

I use sampled hits all the time, but to take an entire loop
just feels like it would be cheating badly. programming
drums is the most fun part of making making music
electronically. (just my opinion.)


 

offline noseburger on 2008-10-25 04:32 [#02248030]
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they both have their merits. next.



 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-10-25 04:34 [#02248031]
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next.


 

offline noseburger on 2008-10-25 04:48 [#02248032]
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are you sampling me?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-10-25 04:56 [#02248033]
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I programmed the letters by hand but I wont deny that you've
inspired me.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-10-25 05:04 [#02248034]
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hmm. depends on how you use the sample really.
pretty much all the music i make is with hand programmed
beats, and its tiresome and awefully time consuming, but i
prefer the result:)


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2008-10-25 07:56 [#02248042]
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Take the loop, chop it into pieces and play the basic loop
then make little variations on it then snare rolls rushes
and stuff like that. Make the song have some sort of synth
bass. Give it a intro and a breakdown in the middle. Add
some sci-fi sound effects and hey presto, it's the 90's
again.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2008-10-25 08:28 [#02248047]
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it depends on what context you're sampling the material

i personally sample drum material sometimes because of the
rhythm and syncopation, the general groove of the beat, and
the humanisation. sometimes i sample because of the actual
sound rather than the rhythm, you know...the way the drums
have been recorded (if the material is a breakbeat, or live
recorded drums), the processing involved (or lack of
processing).

ultimately, it's all personal preference. just like music is
anyways.

why should you care why someone samples the infamous break
by the drummer of The Winstons, or why someone samples
Planet Rock's infectious¹ drums?

just go with it

¹please note that this is a personal view, and should
not be regarded as general opinion




 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-25 13:04 [#02248099]
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i almost exclusively used chopped up breaks and drum beats
from others tracks for my drums. of course, i tweak the
sounds, trim them, add all sorts of effects, so it's no
necessarily noticeable, but i love the way it comes out.

amon tobin said it best when describing sampling in that he
likes the little big extra sound thats left in there when
using sampled material. it's not just one isolated
instrument, you've got the decay from others, whatever
sounds are floating around in the mix, and it adds a great
amount of character to something as simple as a bass drum.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2008-10-25 13:15 [#02248102]
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programming drum samples


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2008-10-25 13:50 [#02248105]
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Yeah even the silence isn't silent, there's something there,
like you can hear the air. It's like that silent sound they
used for Lawrence of Arabia. It wasn't pure silence, but
recorded "silence". Apparently it is such a popular sound
for films it was named "Silence is Golden".



 

offline bit bare from Chilean Vulture Rising on 2008-10-25 13:51 [#02248106]
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has to be 100% original or whats the point?

first i did the old cut and paste, using an audio editor to
build up loops from individual drum hits.

then i moved on to making vst drum kits in cubase, still it
took long to mix down the tracks then still have to do post
editing to make the 16bit sound good.

presently for the last 3 years i use reason to program drums
and its super fast and easy to import drum hits, assemble
drum kits, and export samples.



 

offline Quaristice on 2008-10-25 14:42 [#02248111]
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GENIOUS STEELS


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-25 14:55 [#02248114]
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GENIUS SPELLS GENIUS CORRECTLY.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-10-25 15:06 [#02248116]
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i usually process my drums a lot, i never use loops as
foundation but rather one hit samples, usually creations of
my own, but if there is a good one in my library i will use
it!

if i want a good ol' hiphop type break i will of course use
a sample loop, and chop it up


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-25 19:59 [#02248151]
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I never resample other drums, any beat i do is made from
scratch, i like to layer drum parts too, dunno why, i just
never got into sampling stuff that much, maybe i'm missing
out on some fun


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2008-10-26 00:43 [#02248162]
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Nothing is 100% original get your head out of your arse.

Anyway, I like sampling it's always fun to see how you can
take it. the whole of the music most of us listen to is
based around stealing. I like stealing it's fun.

: )


 

offline wimp on 2008-10-26 02:49 [#02248185]
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I sample a lot of rolls from dub tracks or little bits of
interesting percussion from shit like Cal Tjader. But they
almost always end up being completely gutted. Don't copy me.



 

offline AphexAcid from Sweden on 2008-11-05 08:08 [#02250345]
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I need a long, clean Flugel horn in G in wav-format. Can't
find any anywhere. Could anyone contribute with a link, or
something? Thanks.


 

offline AphexAcid from Sweden on 2008-11-05 08:22 [#02250348]
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Found it.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-11-05 08:32 [#02250349]
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both.


 


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