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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-06-28 09:25 [#02218733]
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im sorry to say, but dubstep is just where its at right now.
2562 - Aerial Ital Tek - Cyclical Martyn - All i have is memories
can't believe this havent been talked about here.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-28 09:47 [#02218738]
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the two first are in my daily playlist. i can listen to cyclical up to 4 times a day. the third one is unknown to me but as you have mentioned the first two it will definately land in my wishlist.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-06-28 09:47 [#02218739]
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I came across that Ital Tek on bleep. I thought it was really good, I'm probably going to get it.
The new MBM is good too, of course he's no newbie to dub, just the step :P
I have to say, I downloaded one Burial song, Archangel, and it wasn't really my thing. Is all their stuff like that?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-06-28 09:56 [#02218744]
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burial is burial, its either your thing completely or something that you detest. Start out with the 2562 album, its not exactly the right way to start listening to dubstep, but its surely enjoyable if you usually listen to electronic music.
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staz
on 2008-06-28 10:07 [#02218745]
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ital tek is amazingly good for dubstep, thumbs up
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-28 10:26 [#02218748]
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i've been listening to soooo much dubstep recently. the 2562 disc is quite good, haven't checked the others yet. thanks for the suggestions, i'll be checking them out real soon.
my recommendation: benga - diary of an afro warrior. i've been listening to this album near constantly, my favorite dubstep so far. his sound design reminds me a lot of amon tobin as well as a splash of vibert in there. it's just sublime.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-28 10:29 [#02218750]
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yeah on the other hand ital tek is so simple but yet so idmish and just awesom.
the 2562 album bores at times but i he just welded together this echospace/chain reaction sound with dubstep and it sounds awesome.
the new mbm is awesome too. the mastering rocks my socks. the initial hit in lonely solder in the first seconds after the vocal just makes you poop your pants.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-28 10:34 [#02218751]
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did you just say you like the mastering on the mbm?
look at it in a wave editor. yes, it's a fucking great album - i stand by the fact that children of earth is the best dubstep track to be released in my opinion - but it is atrociously mastered. there is no dynamic range at all, everything is just at a constant 0 db. sooooo incredibly over compressed, no album has made me more annoyed since digitalism's idealism.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-28 11:30 [#02218758]
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did you like turning dragon or body riddle ? imho the 0db mastering on those two appears to be much more harmful to my ears than the mbm one. even more. i find it hard to listen to both those previously mentioned albums in one piece without making a break. and never finished them with headphones on.
on the other hand i love all those three albums right because of it. when i say that the mastering is great i don't say it like a top-notch engineer would say it but meaning the artistic side of it. that this kind of mastering is absolutely appropriate for those albums and they would loose alot without it.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-28 11:36 [#02218760]
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yeah the bass in children of earth is devastating.
the ONLY thing that bothers me in this album is the extensive use of reaktor 5 presets.
on the other hand it seems that using reaktor 5 presets is now meant to be the standard in dubstep because it is just everywhere. the new landstrumm has also tons of it. that's actually quite weird. i mean when you buy reaktor it seems like you are a person who wants to really exploit the fact that it's open source and use the preset ensembles only for gettin ideas.
but maybe that's exactly that - reaktor is expensive and they probably think that not a lot artists have it and won't recognise the preset sounds. whatever.
oh and the same thing with glitch dsp. it seems for me that it's the dub siren of dubstep. vide boxcutter and it seems ital tek as it too.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-28 11:36 [#02218761]
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i think the mastering fit better on the clark discs than mbm's. although i can see how the over compression of it does lend something to the style.
i guess my biggest grip with it is that because of the mastering i can't mash anything up with those tracks while djing or else it comes out sounding like complete mush.
on the other hand i've mixed benga - crunked up with the vocals from snoops dogg's drop it like it's hot and the result is just sick. also, the specials - ghost town is great with 2562 - moog dub.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-28 11:50 [#02218762]
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link: Benga vs. Snoop Dogg - Drop It Like It's Crunked Up
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-28 11:57 [#02218766]
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hahhahahaa great stuff.
i could actually say something bad about the mbm recording but then i hear the initial bang of those panned and chorused drums in lonely soldier and don't say anything more.
jesus that remix is sick !! do you have a patent for it or may i use it to ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-28 12:00 [#02218768]
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have you extracted the vocal from snoop yourself? i can hear some fft junk in the chorus.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-28 12:15 [#02218772]
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nah, i got the vox from this great site, along with tons others.
go ahead and use it as much as you want! i'm pretty sure nobody can patent a song anyway :P
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-06-28 12:27 [#02218775]
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2562's stuff is some of the most solid well put together dubstep ive heard in a very long time. Unlike benga where afro warrior has approximately 5 tracks that he sounded like he called up a preset drum kit and pumped it out in 30 minutes. i like some of bengas stuff but a lot of it is throw away
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-06-28 12:28 [#02218776]
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yeah the new MBM album its not so much the mastering i mind, its the saddening fact that Jack Dangers take on dubstep sounds super dated and copy cat off of countless other artists. I am a huge admirer of his and was hoping his take on the dubstep would be much more interesting.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2008-06-28 14:17 [#02218787]
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i've yet to hear a bad track out of 2562 or martyn, deffo a place for full-on formula tunes like spongebob, cockney thug etc but them two are just miles ahead. breakage is supposed to be doing some dubstep stuffs now and i cannot fucking wait, now there's a fellow who knows about rhythm and bass and subtlety
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-06-28 19:04 [#02218825]
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really? the only thing i know of breakage was some poorly executed dnb set. is there more to it?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-06-28 23:26 [#02218839]
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You know on later listen it wasn't so bad, Burial I mean. I think i was just expecting something different, and the vocals blindsided me. Really that style of vocal I don't mind from Cee-Lo, Mouse on Mars, Daft Punk etc. I was thinking about Scorn or something and then it was nothing like that :P
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-29 00:02 [#02218840]
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oh hey the ffs-type sound you hear might be the complex beat matching algorithm from ableton - the original track is somewhere around 20 bmp faster.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-29 00:11 [#02218841]
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also, jesus fuck. i'm on bloodline by ital tek from cyclical, and holy shit, this is some seriously haaaarrrd shit. and very early "idm" style melodies i might add.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-29 00:43 [#02218844]
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oh wow.
deep pools samples pyramid song.
i think i just came in my pants.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2008-06-29 01:42 [#02218846]
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cunty, get spiritualism, lead me on or trans bohemian, you'll see what i mean. not keen on much dnb these days but breakage is deep, lot of martsman and amit's stuff is worth checking too
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-06-29 02:29 [#02218849]
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thanks for recommending cyclical, what a great album.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2008-06-29 03:55 [#02218850]
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dubstep is so 2003
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-29 05:27 [#02218851]
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oh crap. i just launched all i have is memories.
at the title track i was like yeah ok but the beat in suburbia is just totally ass-moving
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-06-29 07:09 [#02218860]
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what you say what you say what you say wuaaaaah
i think you've fallen behind mappatazee, you've always been stuck.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-29 07:31 [#02218862]
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Ital Tek - Cyclical
I checked this out last night, it was nice
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-06-29 12:09 [#02218913]
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i like some of ital tek's stuff but he too has a lot of throw away tracks where only some of them are gems imo.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2008-06-29 12:37 [#02218919]
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nice, been flicking the 33 rpm on a few breakages for some dubstep mixes lately.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2008-06-29 17:22 [#02218973]
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cheers for the Breakage recommendation, downloaded a selection of tracks and am immensely enjoying them
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-06-30 05:59 [#02219025]
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I think we forgot to mention Goth-Trad, which is not to be missed these days.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-06-30 10:38 [#02219045]
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checking goth trad and breakage - will let know soon later. no like pronoun or article.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-07-08 02:01 [#02220336]
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wow, far east assassin by goth trad is epic. he really manages to get that pulsating but constant wash of bass.
breakage is coming up on the playlist (i just got around to adding around 7 gigs of music to itunes so i will finally listen to it.)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-07-08 03:23 [#02220340]
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martyn - natural selection! masssif
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cipater
on 2008-07-08 08:39 [#02220377]
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Just listened to Ital Tek - Cyclical. Very boring, melodies are almost completely lacking or very simple, completely random compositional structure (does not go anywhere).
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-07-11 14:54 [#02221152]
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i've just started listening to the davwuh (where do they get these names? it's almost bordering as weird as idm) album dystopia and its shaping up quite nicely.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-08-04 01:45 [#02227424]
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A Made Up Sound (2562) just released his new ep, its on boomkat! sounds good.
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