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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:25 [#02218127]
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Monoid: What do you think is more reasonable?
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on 2008-06-26 00:26 [#02218128]
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pulseclock: neither, you dont need an ism to live life, but agnosticism isn't denial.
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on 2008-06-26 00:26 [#02218129]
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rad smiles: its foolish
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:27 [#02218130]
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rad smiles: Agnosticism is more reasonable though, to me.
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on 2008-06-26 00:28 [#02218131]
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Monoid: Its just the way we call it
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on 2008-06-26 00:28 [#02218132]
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goDel: atheism would seem to me more rational. and agnosticism more reasonable in the context of discussions with 'normal' religions.
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on 2008-06-26 00:29 [#02218133]
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BoxBob-K23: I'm atheistic in relation to the monotheisms, agnostic in relation to things I know less about.
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on 2008-06-26 00:29 [#02218134]
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colani: God is real funny, see what happens when you start praying
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lol
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on 2008-06-26 00:30 [#02218135]
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DiaZoHeXagon: I prefer gnosticism (Literally Agnosis = unknowing)
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on 2008-06-26 00:30 [#02218136]
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Barcode: Neither thanks. If it's not important to any other animal, why should it be important to me?
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:31 [#02218137]
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goDel: classic in the religion bashing department:
George Carlin - Religion is Bullshit
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:31 [#02218138]
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AMPI MAX: agnostic. we are just smelly humans who will never know either way no matter how we debate the subject. aetheism is too conclusive and arrogant.
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on 2008-06-26 00:32 [#02218139]
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Drunken Mastah: It probably isn't important to any other animal whether or not something is important to any other animal either, but you still seem to find it important...
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on 2008-06-26 00:32 [#02218140]
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Barcode: I just told you I don't find it important, so why are you telling me I do? By virtue of taking part in a theological
discussion doesn't necessarily make it important.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-06-26 00:32 [#02218141]
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epic
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on 2008-06-26 00:33 [#02218142]
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cyrstal dude: i feel sory for you because when the lord comes back then you willthink that he is your only way to not fry in hell for eternity. i think that you better have a different outlook toward the lord because he is there watching over you and he can easily turn his back on you when you cry out in a desperate need that might be your only hope.
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on 2008-06-26 00:34 [#02218143]
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Drunken Mastah: You obviously find what other animals find important to be important. Otherwise, you wouldn't base what it is you are supposed to find important on what other animals find
important. However, it isn't clear that other animals find what other animals find important to be important. You are therefore contradicting yourself when you claim that what isn't important to other animals is important to you to such an extent that you base what you find important on it.
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:34 [#02218144]
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AMPI MAX: Some animals also lick there own pissflaps. Do this also
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on 2008-06-26 00:35 [#02218145]
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goDel: wow this is turning into a mess. way to go with drunken reasoning
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:35 [#02218146]
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Indeksical: 8 x important
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on 2008-06-26 00:36 [#02218147]
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goDel: i count 9!
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on 2008-06-26 00:36 [#02218148]
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Drunken Mastah: Actually it's ten.
If you take the i from the first important, the m from the second, and so on, you get nine letters which make up i m p o r t a n t.
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on 2008-06-26 00:37 [#02218149]
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J198: i am leaning towards atheism lately partly because of writings and debates by dawkins, hitchens and harris.
i can't help but agreeing that belief in an omnipotent god as a creator and ruler is indeed delusional.
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on 2008-06-26 00:38 [#02218150]
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larn: i read Plato and became aware of the possible existence of a metapysical realm beyond or above the sensory world. I came to understand that the human mind could concieve of a realm of which the empiricle world was epiphenomenal. Finaly i came to believe that in a certain sense the empiricle world was not truly real, at least not as real as the archetypal realm beyond it.
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on 2008-06-26 00:38 [#02218151]
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Barcode: I already told you, animals DON'T find it important, and I DON'T find it important, and this discussion is NOT important either. If you want to waste your time inventing contradictions that's up to you - good luck.
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:39 [#02218152]
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Barcode: I feel sorry for you that you're mentally ill.
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on 2008-06-26 00:39 [#02218153]
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Indeksical: I CAN COUNT.
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on 2008-06-26 00:41 [#02218154]
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BoxBob-K23: Oh wow - someone who was actually "converted" by dawkins, hitchens and harris! The Atheist Alliance is increasing in numbers.
I think it's important that work like this is going on. Hitchens' book is especially Great - unlike the book's subject matter har har!
But most of this recent debate misses the point. It doesn't go far enough in explaining what makes religions so much fun: it has to do with cool drinks and crazy hats, and Pope-mobiles in teh nite. The coolest drink is the blood of a jew, yum yummy.
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on 2008-06-26 00:42 [#02218155]
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goDel: with that reasoning i come to 90.
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on 2008-06-26 00:42 [#02218156]
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obara: neither are important (to me), as are the terms "religion" or "god" they refer to
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on 2008-06-26 00:42 [#02218157]
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Monoid: Hawkins doesn't know what he is talking about. You should read Hans Küng instead.
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:43 [#02218158]
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J198: Dawkins on the other hand..
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on 2008-06-26 00:43 [#02218159]
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Monoid: I dont know, havent read dawkins. I bet its some antisemtic atheist fundamentalist literature
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on 2008-06-26 00:44 [#02218160]
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goDel: so you haven't read dawkins, but you know that he doesn't know what he's talking about? only brilliant people are allowed to do that
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:44 [#02218161]
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Monoid: Yeah so...I am brilliant!.....And sexy. Dawkins on the other hand....
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on 2008-06-26 00:45 [#02218162]
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goDel: just sexy. what a lucky guy. if i could choose i'd pick sexy as well. brilliance is for homos
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on 2008-06-26 00:45 [#02218163]
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Drunken Mastah: You also don't know how to read, apparently.
Try again.
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:46 [#02218164]
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obara: does god exist or not
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on 2008-06-26 00:46 [#02218165]
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goDel: he did exist, but he quit his job 1000 years ago. last rumors i heard was that he was chilling behind some cloud of dark matter.
could you roll a spliff from dark matter?
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:47 [#02218166]
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obara: it's possible. maybe not now, but in about 20 years - YES !
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:47 [#02218167]
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xkejjer: but animals are dumb
the animal kingdom
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on 2008-06-26 00:48 [#02218168]
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Barcode: Dawkins is aggravating. He is so entrenched in his own anti-religious beliefs that he's become just as ignorant as those he claims to be ignorant.
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:48 [#02218169]
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earthleakage: frying pantheism
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:49 [#02218170]
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earthleakage: hawking is pretentious. he comes from essex and speaks with an american accent. wot a nob.
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on 2008-06-26 00:49 [#02218171]
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J198: whats up with everyone calling dawkins either hawkins or hawking all the time?
and dont even try and pretend you were talking about stephen hawking, nob.
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:49 [#02218172]
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earthleakage: i was, otherwise the joke wouldnt work, idiot.
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on 2008-06-26 00:50 [#02218173]
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earthleakage: its rather patronising for u to assume i dont know the difference between stephen hawking and richard dawkins. one is a spanner the other is a nerd.
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on 2008-06-26 00:50 [#02218174]
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Barcode: which is which?
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PS
on 2008-06-26 00:51 [#02218175]
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Ophecks: The guy from Shining Time Station makes some good points there
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on 2008-06-26 00:52 [#02218176]
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DiaZoHeXagon: I've never really understood why people get so upset over this. If I believe in God or not doesn't or shouldn't effect anyone. I've always been down for discussion, I think it's always very interesting to both parties learning about other points of views as long as no one is trying to convert each other. Every point of view is a theory and all require some amount of faith (in a non-religious way). What makes one point of view better? Yet some jackass must always say "I feel bad for you, because you're going to hell" which is very opposite of what it is you preach, since judgment does not belong to you, or "you are just ignorant and some brainwahed fool to believe in something that isn't tangible" why should you care, aren't we all just dust anyways? What is our constant desire to always convert each other by insults?
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