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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 09:16 [#02217014]
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I want to get a job there really bad at this one Mall. What preparations should i make so i don't seemn like a jackass? I really want to make a good impression, do i have to know a lot about computers/audio?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-06-20 09:25 [#02217016]
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uh it's a sales thing so just do whatever they tell you to do. you probably don't have to know much either
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-06-20 09:26 [#02217017]
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i think to do the support thing you have to get apple certification
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-06-20 09:28 [#02217019]
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You'll need to make sure you understand and appreciate the differences between types of apples. Should it be deep red when ripe, or pale green? Is the taste sweeter or more acidic? And then there's the tricky dilemma of presentation. Should the stem be left on, or twisted off? Must the apple be presented whole, or cut up into slices? Should the skin be left on, or peeled off? Is it safe to eat the apple on its own, or should it be combined with other ingredients? Should the apple even be eaten, or instead given to a First grade teacher? These and other difficult questions will have to be answered on a daily basis. Trust me, you don't want to be fumbling for the answers when those hungry customers arrive. Best make sure you're prepared.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-20 09:29 [#02217020]
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I applied for a job at one. You don't have to know much, they're mainly looking for people that will worship Apple without shame. The last part of my interview was "create a 3 minute presentation on why Apple are so great". I didn't get it.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-06-20 09:34 [#02217022]
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LOL. that's ridiculous
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2008-06-20 09:36 [#02217024]
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3minute presentation? i like their stuff, but thats just daft
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 09:41 [#02217025]
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I think i could pull a 3 minute buttkiss off,
Cygnus: do you mean Tech support for their computers? I wish i knew a computer well enough to do that, because sales is the last thing i want to do.
And i have no previous job experience besides wrapping palettes and mowing lawns
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-20 10:24 [#02217041]
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my mate works at the local apple store, you don't have to be ultra knowledgable about apple products or sales in general. they teach you all this stuff once you get the job. they have an online testing programme where you can choose various sections and you earn points for completing a section. you have to earn a certain amout of points per year i think.
the commision sucks btw....they make £2 on an ipod.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-20 11:24 [#02217051]
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lmfao brilliant.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 11:39 [#02217056]
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I LOVE GRANNY SMITH APPLES YOU GUYS
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-06-20 13:00 [#02217072]
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I couldn't do a three second presentation about the wonders of apple.... here's why.
iphone/jesus phone. has only just got 3G. innovative, eh? no real buttons because tactile feedback is soooo overrated. oh and totally obscene charges/contracts. why do people buy this crap? oooh cos it looks shiny and nice, look at those sanded corners. im sure it goes really well with the man bag and starbucks coffee (super mocha choca froca chino)
My favourite description of them is "fruit themed toy maker".
They take the basic intel x86 computer architecture used by world+dog, shove it in a box (again like everyone else), but here is the clever part...
sand down the corners and paint it white with a little image of fruit for good measure. oh and then charge double the money for the equivalent bits in any other pc.
as for the os, how about grab a BSD and just make a snazzy interface for it. Make a mouse with only one button work with it because multiple buttons = really confusing.
then of course the ipod. what a load of crap. I am amazed at the number of people that people replace their old Ipod with a new one because the old one broke or something. "my product broke and I found it so disagreable I'm going to buy again from the same company". logical. oh and Itunes with its lovely DRM. "beep beep. I'm sorry you cannot copy this song anymore. You never bought it, you licensed it. suckahhhh"
I like the brand association tags for apple
here. these are the words to include in your 3 minute eulogy to the lord steve jobs of the kingdom of cappucino.
I do have a love of Cox's apples. There are some in the fridge right now... ohhh STOP..... APPLE time! yum yum yum yum yum
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-20 13:17 [#02217074]
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apples piss all over PCs/Microsoft. end of discussion PC boy.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-20 13:20 [#02217077]
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It's funny how Vista sucks asshole though.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2008-06-20 13:23 [#02217078]
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great rant, but one button mice section need to go, cause that's been dealt with
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-20 13:24 [#02217079]
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RE: the job, i think general sales knowledge will prove better than product knowledge. the old phrase, 'you don't hire a coal miner to sell coal' springs to mind.
i reckon customer service will be a high priority, so emphasize how you'll (efficiently) spend time with and help customers. also if you don't know the answer to something, don't be afraid to ask. in interviews they prefer you to ask rather than bullshit.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-20 13:27 [#02217082]
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Apple = Nice computers. Shit everything else. The iPod + iTunes = Overrated + overpriced garbage as dave g said. Pretty much double exactly what Dave said and you have my opinion.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2008-06-20 13:46 [#02217087]
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not acceptable, write your own rant
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edga
on 2008-06-20 14:42 [#02217094]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrfEw-DsFTI
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-06-20 15:49 [#02217105]
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1up: I'm sorry but apple computer = pc. The bits inside are EXACTLY the same. Seriously. ever since they switched from PPC to intel CPUs.
I think microsoft are rubbish. My computer is a Thinkpad T60 running linux. Bill gates can get stuffed.
Futureimage: Write your own rant you lazy sod.
Vlari: I have a pathological hatred of our electronic rodent enemies. I love the thinkpad trackpoint keyboard joystick doodah. I'd prefer if keyboard use was the primary input method in lots of programs.
I didn't want to include the one button mouse thing but hey. How about the non localised keyboards. my friend bought a mac in the UK and it will only come with the US layout (which is clearly rubbish compared to uk layout)
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The worst thing about apple stuff recently is the whole soldered battery. It just encourages the throw-away society even more. This sort of corporate irresposibility should be avoided - it makes me so upset. I tend to (and would rather) buy things which are built to last, not thrown away after a year or two.
To be a bit upbeat, I now own a second copy of this badboy on vinyl. This is getting rinsed at full volume tomorrow at least 8 times seamlessly. (I'm so sorry neighbours)
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-21 04:06 [#02217148]
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sniff-sniff... i smell bullshit. what about soundcards and the like. how come my macbook runs much faster and more efficiently than my same priced laptop. how come it runs music applications without a soundcard when my pc just cant cope full stop? build quality counts for something too.
i have 2 ipods. the first one i've had for 5 years and it still works fine now. i got a new one for more storage space. call me lucky or whatever but everyone else i know who owns one is on the same boat. furthermore, people i know who went for phillips mp3 players and other branded ones over ipods have all regretted it and ended up buying ipods.
to just dismiss apple products as being shite is ludicrous. i like apple, you like PC, lets just leave it at that eh? ;)
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-06-21 04:41 [#02217151]
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no.
If you want build quality buy a thinkpad. I don't like PCs per se. The original PC architecture was awful. Ever since they've had so many legacy mistakes that they still haven't quite totally removed them. IBM shouldn't have sub-conned the initial design!
In many ways the early 68000 based macs had a nicer architecture. I'm a big fan of the motorola 68000 series CPUs. much nicer to program than the equivalent intel ones. Anyhow... water under the bridge.
At the current time, a mac=pc, hardware wise (we shall ignore case design - this is from an electronic perspective).
I would imagine that your operating system, background processes, etc will have an enormous affect on the speed of a machine. You really need to have identical software setups to be able to accurately determine which is faster.
I'm not sure the point of running audio apps without a soundcard, unless you're really into John Cage. I'm not suprised performance is better without soundcard. Say you're playing CD quality stereo. Thats 44.1 thousand times a second you're bussing out at least 32 bits to the soundcard (that's the whole width of the PCI bus taken up thousands of times a second. probably more with whatever non audio data is sent by the soundcard driver). no wonder the soundcard machine is slower than the other. What about latency settings, process priorities, virus scanners, etc. An identical software environment is like I said, essential for A:B comparisons. [have I misunderstood the whole soundcard thing?]
As for Ipods, I appreciate that from your anecdotal evidence they're perhaps not as self-destructable as I may have implied . Itunes is still a massive con trick though.
I don't think all apple products are shite tbh. I just think they are dangerously overpriced, often style over substance. It's easy to be seduced by apple, but apply some rational thought and realise it is too expensive and their gadgets (non computers) are not designed to last.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-06-21 07:55 [#02217180]
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i think apple is targeted at a different audience. when i get a little older and cbf with having to deal with a pc, i'll be happy to make the move. until then, pc is holding fine. just need to keep an eye on it is all.
theres gonna be an apple store in melbourne soon but its gonna be pissy and small. definitely not worth camping outside for the opening.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-06-21 08:33 [#02217191]
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i meant with music creation apps... like ableton live and reason and the like. i make sure there are no processes running in the background. i know about this from music making... i need everything running as efficient as possible.
build quality still does count for something.
for me personally, from my own experience, it is indeed the standard windows pc which is not designed to last. same with shitty mp3 players. this is just my opinion though, just like you have yours.
i'd love to use linux on my pc however, until some decent music creation software comes out i wont be touching it.
but anyways, lets get the topic back on track eh?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-06-21 08:36 [#02217192]
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why do people need to compare shit all of the time? If you don't like something, don't use it.
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