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Ambivalent
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2008-04-10 15:46 [#02193080]
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so i've found this cheesy toysynth, what do you need to get started with it?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-04-10 15:47 [#02193081]
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google
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Ambivalent
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2008-04-10 16:10 [#02193083]
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i want you, razorblade, not google..
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-04-10 16:14 [#02193084]
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well you can't have me.
well ok you can, but it won't help, because i know nothing about circuit bending.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-04-10 16:18 [#02193085]
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you need some vaseline. put some on the toysynth and gently push it up your ass. done!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-04-10 16:20 [#02193088]
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sweaty palms or a piece of wire or something else conductive. Start at one circuit, work your way around the board finding connections. Mark the ones you like. Solder them to switches or banana plugs or whatever. Its really not that complicated, and honestly, I don't think it deserves the 1337 status that people seem to think it gives them.
Razorblades answer is correct. There are more circuitbending websites out there than there are circuitbenders, and they will all give you one of two different kinds of information;
1) that circuit bending is a great way to look cool in a nerdy sort of way. This kind of website will always have a poorly shot video of some dork being interviewed in his moms basement. Its all very postmodern.
---or--- 2) it will walk you through some devices, and show you a few techniques to help get you started. Generally each of this kind of website will show you the exact same thing as all the others, only there will be one or two neat tricks that you can use.
You want to try to find website number 2.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-04-10 16:21 [#02193089]
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what about my advice?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-04-10 16:23 [#02193091]
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Well, that is kind of the same advice I gave in a more consise manner. I hereby dub you 'King Ziltybenders'.
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Ambivalent
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2008-04-10 16:29 [#02193092]
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<3
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-04-10 16:48 [#02193093]
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Documentary
You may want to watch this in its entirety to get a good idea as to some good bends.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-04-10 23:10 [#02193193]
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I have a circuit bent casio. It's great for getting interesting audio samples, assuming you've got one with a quarter-inch (or even eighth-inch) jack to hook it up to a recorder. Thing is, the general consensus with bent-machines seems to be that the sound-palate is unlimited, and after many hours of screwing around, I can tell you with certainty that it is not. In fact, I had exhausted the possibilities of mine within a matter of weeks. Note that mine does not have a patch bay, so that might be why. They can be a fun distraction, but unless you plan on doing lots of sample-based music (and most of the samples you want to use are completely non-musical) you'd be better off investing your time and money elsewhere.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2008-04-10 23:13 [#02193194]
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(and most of the samples you want to use are completely non-musical)
I don't know what kind you had but did it have a rhythm function? I have one with 4 settings, rock, basanova, swing, and waltz or something.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-10 23:15 [#02193196]
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With some hard work. Disciplined study. You too can sound hackneyed
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-04-11 02:05 [#02193229]
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Yeah just get some wire and have a poke around. Once you know where the bends are you can buy SPST switches and wire all the bends up so you can get them just by flicking a switch.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-04-11 07:36 [#02193316]
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the weird thing with mine was that the rhythm functions mostly just turned into random audio loops, with no semblance of actual rhythm. I really do like many of the tones that it can create, but what I meant by "non-musical" was that all I was able to really use the sounds for was slicing them into very short samples to use in Redrum (or any other sample-based drum machine). There were a few notable exceptions - sometimes I would find very analog-sounding and melodic synth patches, but they were almost unusable because for some reason it would only be on a range of like 9 keys, occasionally with a few keys in between playing either no sound, a different sound, or the same pitch as the key before it. In other words, when I did find a nice sound, it was generally impossible to play any kind of complex melody with it.
I'm sure that, given enough time and money invested into various circuit-bent toys and instruments, one could probably make some interesting music. Listening to a dozen benders' music on myspace would tell a different story, as its usually a loud, squelchy, cumbersome mess that's generally boring and more than a little wanky. I'm referring to solely-circuit-bent music, here, as the results are often much better when circuit bent instruments are used 'here and there' within a much larger body of musical ideas. Case in point: AFX.
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