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morge
from United Kingdom on 2008-04-09 05:48 [#02192645]
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I've downloaded a virtual dj software, I think its called Atomix or something. I think I downloaded Traktor as well but I haven't looked at it yet. I have very little knowlege of dj-ing and am not massively computer savvy, I just wanna be able to mix tunes for house parties and stuff.
But basically my problem is my computer only has one sound output, so I can only hear the mix output. Obviously I need to be able to hear what I'm cueing up. I know what I need is a soundcard, but which is a decent, cheap one to get?
I bought some shitty thing from PC World called a Creative Sound Blaster which won't even seem to properly install on my computer and when I plug my headphones into its phones output I can't hear anything.
No one in computer shops seems to know what to sell me but surely it can't be that complicated a piece of kit?
Any suggestions/advice appreciated, cheers
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freqy
on 2008-04-09 06:18 [#02192648]
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what ports you got on your lapy top? pcmcia card slot? firewire?
how much money you got?
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2008-04-09 07:05 [#02192660]
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I've got a "6 in 1 card slot" but thats being used. I think I do have firwire, according to the list of spec's.
As for money, I can spend quite a bit (say £50) but want to spend as little as I have to.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-04-09 07:39 [#02192663]
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£50 wont get you a decent soundcard.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2008-04-09 08:08 [#02192666]
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well I can go up to £100 if need be.
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freqy
on 2008-04-09 08:09 [#02192667]
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so.remeber you cant buy pci cards.. as adaptors for laptops are veery expensive
if you have firewire best search for a card and keep an eye on ebay.
i found some great deals on there.
there must be something !! oh for freak sake DO NOT BUY A USB2 soundcard.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2008-04-09 08:34 [#02192669]
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whats bad about USB2 soundcards? The sound card I bought already that doesn't seem to work connects via USB
There's an "aureon 7.1" soundcard on ebay at the moment only a tenner with 2 days to go. seems suspiciously cheap to me
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-04-09 09:11 [#02192674]
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For the price you may as well go firewire if you want to head into this kinda stuff.
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jkd
from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-04-09 10:53 [#02192700]
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I'm in the same situation. I've started experimenting with laptop DJing, and I'm wondering what would be a good external soundcard for a G4 Powerbook (with 2 or more stereo outputs, obviously, and 2+ stereo inputs would be good, too.)
Here are some questions for anybody who DJs on a laptop:
Does anyone DJ by just mousing it? Is this feasible? Do you think something like a turntable with time-coded vinyl is needed, even if you don't care about scratching?
Isn't some sort of hardware mixer with a cross-fader and EQs (even if it's just MIDI) pretty much required? It seems too difficult to do anything tricky using just the mouse (such as quick cross-fades back and forth).
What sound interface do you have? (give it a quick review)
What software do you use? (give it a quick review)
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-04-09 11:51 [#02192714]
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i use ableton with a bitstream 3x midi controller which is an amazingly good combo. with ableton, you simply beat match a track, set up a few different cues ahead of time, then save the file to be dragged into a set whenever you want - no need to headphone cueing, altho i would like to be able to do that sometime in the future.
the bitstream is a wonderful yin to abletons yang, as it has 8 sliders for volume and as well as a crossfader, and tons of knobs which i have mapped to things like filter cut off, resonance, low end levels and a bunch of effects (i have dblue glitch running on each of my 4 tracks).
if youre going to want to do more mixing on the fly, like a standard 2 turntable set up, it seems the timecoded vinyl software/hardware combo is the way to go because they have hardware dedicated to the splitting of the audio signals, so opposed to just utilizing the outputs for a surround sound card (ie front l and front r for the main mix and rear r and rear l for cueing) which will eat up a lot more cpu cycles than you are likely to want to part with (especially for jkd with his ancient g4).
p.s. the only reason i have that big ass mixer there is so i can have both my "monitors" (creative desktop speakers = monitors ha!) and headphones playing the output as well as whatever pa i'd be plugging into.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-04-09 12:01 [#02192720]
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$1 for a y splitter. Deck one could be left out and deck two right out. Mono mixes are tuff as shit. Be a man.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-04-09 12:04 [#02192722]
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fuckin' a yes!
'ardcore
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OK
on 2008-04-09 12:33 [#02192729]
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indigo dj?
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jkd
from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-04-09 13:15 [#02192743]
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I'm not sure if I understand your idea. If you send one deck to left and the other to right, what would you plug that in to? Sure, if you had a mixer with a cross-fader, that'd work... and you could monitor with headphones if your mixer had that. Is that what you meant?
Hm, I just thought of another way to do it. You could output the 'mix' through left, and the cue through right. Then, you could plug left into the sound system, and right into your headphones. (you'd probably need some more cables for this setup.) All mixing would be done on the computer in software, using a midi controller or even the mouse. Does anyone know if Traktor supports doing this? I just checked Ableton Live (4) and it does.
I was thinking it'd be more useful to get a 'DJ mixer' that's actually just a midi controller; that way I could use it for creating my own music as well.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-04-09 13:34 [#02192751]
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easiest would be mixing in software. in ableton, you could just assign two tracks to a or b on the crossfader, then treat the pan knob as your mix of the cue.
but honestly, dont do this if you really wanna spin parties - it mono mixes just wouldnt cut it.
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