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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-03-30 15:57 [#02189680]
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is there a way for it to not suck
help computer
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-03-30 16:08 [#02189685]
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sudo rm -rD *.*
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-03-30 16:09 [#02189686]
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or install windows xp
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-03-30 16:11 [#02189688]
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actually ignore me
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freqy
on 2008-03-30 16:57 [#02189719]
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on firefox? it freezes now n then i have to close and restore session takes 3 secs. but 3 secs of annoyance.
they updated firefox twice , still wrecks man. opera i think doesnt even like flash. why the freaking helll dont they have all the plugins you need for the internet on the instal cd..?
sudo your freaking life away.
linux could destroy windows but no one at linux used windows so they havent a clue what we all miss.
like the option of delete if i right click for a the drop down list ....or to be able to select multiple mp3 from a folder with a lasoo on the mouse without having to hold shift or whatever...simple little things that make life easy.
or "you dont have permission to open this folder!!"
i freaking do !! search net how do i copy things to my folder???
2 hours on linux forums. log in as root log out log in sudo yourr freaking ****
otherwise linux is the best thing in the world
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-03-30 19:51 [#02189759]
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There is a fuklot of sudo, yes. It's starting to remind me of Vista constantly asking for confirmation.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-03-31 11:43 [#02189887]
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just do a "sudo su" if you're on ubuntu and do it as root like you can in a "proper" distro.
The official flash player binary blob is pretty decent but I think it hogs the audio or something. The freeby open source one has a delay between audio and video or something but apart from that is better in my experience.
Despite the fact that linux desktop is still not as "easy" as windows, I'm sticking with it because there are real tangible improvements and stuff.
I just like the fact I get nerd bonus points for using it and I can make shell scripts and stuff without using cygwin and apt-get is sooo nice. blah blah
I just wish I could get a decent Atheros Wifi driver and that the proper ATI driver didn't suck so much. (wtf I can get wizzy graphics but not suspend/hibernate!?)
BTW check out my 1337 skills
`______ <`meep`> `------ ```\ ````\ ````````.--. ```````|o_o`| ```````|:_/`| ``````//```\`\ `````(|`````|`) ````/'\_```_/`\ ````\___)=(___/
cowsay -f tux meep | sed "s/ /\`/g"
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-03-31 13:44 [#02189971]
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Ah, I forgot about the sudo su trick. That won't work for graphical admin apps though, I think...? Because they don't know or care that I'm su in a terminal shell unless I launch them from it?
Linux is super nice despite some minor annoyances. Almost everything that's wrong with it is because of lack of support from third party software and hardware vendors.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-03-31 13:57 [#02190002]
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"linux could destroy windows but no one at linux used windows so they havent a clue what we all miss. "
yeah, all those people at linux. like, they all work in a big building together. all the linux. no one at the linux company ever used windows.
hehehehe.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-03-31 14:07 [#02190016]
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not that I'm stupid enough to do this, but couldn't you do the following:
fire up a text console (Ctrl+Alt+F1 for example), then do a sudo su, kill off the Xwindow server and then re-start it as root so it effectively runs all apps loaded from Xwindows as if root has run it.
(Actually as I write this I seem to think it may not work)
If you're running something like ubuntu where the root account is "disabled", I guess you can get access to the root account and login from the normal login screen.
You need to do the following: sudo passwd
and now change the root password.
This has changed the password so now you can login as normal as root with the password you just set. This means that everything you do will have root priviledges.
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freqy
on 2008-03-31 15:01 [#02190042]
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linux ubuntu will destroy xp once they stop talking about sudu.....and opening terminals ...
just freaking double click on somthing make it work ......ERRGGG!!!
lets us live.
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Sano
on 2008-03-31 15:47 [#02190064]
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So it's worse than Workbench 3.1 then.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-04-01 03:41 [#02190219]
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Once Ubuntu gets it shit together and form some sort of eleet driver writing team, it might actually see more users.
In the meantime, my wifi card,line 6 usb sound card,playstation to usb adaptor, web cam,GBA rom writer, M- Audio Oxygen8, and basically anything else I use with my computer won't work.
Which is too bad because I really like this OS.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2008-04-01 06:25 [#02190227]
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(latest) Opera works ok with flash video on ubuntu, tested it for many hours without crashing.
There is still something wrong with Firefox (and other mozilla browsers) using flash on Linux.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-02 21:42 [#02190841]
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I used your sudo passwd tip and also found a config setting that enables me to log straight in as root. This is massively excellent because then I can run the jack server and audio apps as root for low latency, without having to fuck around with command lines.
O-fad, I was completely surprised that the most recent Ubuntu supports all my junk out of the box, including my M-audio card. The thing is, for Windows, the hardware manufacturers write all the drivers, not Microsoft. Ubuntu works amazingly well considering almost all of the drivers are written by volunteers. But it sounds like you have some pretty specialized hardware there.
Laserbeak, I will have to give Linux Opera a shot. The performance of Flash in Firefox is just pathetic.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-04-03 10:13 [#02190992]
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You don't need to run those audio progs as root. You need to be a member of the audio group I believe. This should give you low latency. I think it's not quite as low as root, but a lot safer. It might be worth a shot.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-03 12:01 [#02191033]
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Heh, safety. I'm not going to accidentally type rm -rf / in a terminal while I'm making music. If I were that stupid I would have destroyed windows system after windows system where I'm always "root" by default.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-04-03 13:07 [#02191042]
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Well it's up to you, but running the whole gui as root means that when that applet on the desktop decides to crash and do a silly you run the risk of it blatting your boot image or something nasty.
Wouldn't it be easier to give the jack server and whatever you use for audio root permissions. I think you should be able to do this using a simply chown to root and chmod 4755 (set the stick bit). This means program will run with owner (root) permissions independant of who runs it.
This is quite a nice way of doing it.
Running everything as root should be avoided. You might not do a rm -rf by mistake, but there are plenty of mistakes you can make and you _will_ make them. sooner or later the human condition catches up with you...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-03 13:19 [#02191045]
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I don't have big issues with Flash. I use the Flashblock extension so the objects don't load until I click them. Maybe there is a small memory leak compounded by the fact that lots of advertisements are using Flash these days.
You're not using 64 bit Linux are you? That's a different can of worms.
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jkd
from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-04-03 13:29 [#02191047]
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Don't feel bad, Linus himself can't get it to work. LAZY_TITLE
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-03 13:48 [#02191050]
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Forks are pretty dangerous too. You can stab yourself in the eyeball accidentally.
Perverted Whale: long time no see! I tried it in Opera hoping it was just an interaction with Firefox that made it suck, but no. It mostly works OK, just uses lots more CPU in fullscreen mode than in Windows and gets all jerky.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2008-04-03 14:55 [#02191073]
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- maybe there's something wrong with your video acceleration setup, i know it's very slow in vesa mode.
- try turning off possible eyecandy windowmanager stuff
just tested: on my windowsxp/firefox 3b5 (Athlon64 3000+) fullscreen youtube uses 100% cpu and about 50% windowed. Flash is the worst performing video decoder i've ever seen... I wish youtube and similar sites would use something else
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-03 16:42 [#02191108]
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Yeah it is a shit and eats lots of cpu on Windows on the same machine but at least the picture doesn't stutter in fullscreen like in Linux.
I installed the proper Nvidia driver for my video card in Linux- is there something else I need to do to make it shot web?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-03 16:50 [#02191109]
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Just curious, what framerate do you get from running glxgears in fullscreen?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-03 16:55 [#02191111]
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1323 frames in 5.0 seconds = 264.547 FPS 1326 frames in 5.0 seconds = 265.006 FPS 1322 frames in 5.0 seconds = 264.371 FPS 1310 frames in 5.0 seconds = 261.832 FPS 1305 frames in 5.0 seconds = 260.828 FPS 1250 frames in 5.0 seconds = 249.969 FPS
Is that complete suck?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-03 17:12 [#02191112]
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That's pretty bad. I'm getting 290 FPS with a bargain basement ATI HD 2400 XL at my desk here. I'm able to run full screen flash without stuttering though.
I have an Nvidia 7300 GS on my HTPC and I'll run a test there in a little while. The 7300 GS is a pretty low-end card. What kind of card do you have in your setup?
You are using the proprietary graphics driver in Ubuntu, right? Just wanted to check.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-03 17:18 [#02191114]
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It's a Geforce 6600, which I suppose is not much of a card. Still, it's happier in Windows.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-03 17:20 [#02191115]
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Oh yeah, and AFAIK it's using the proprietary driver. I tried adding option renderaccel true in xorg.conf and it didn't make a difference.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-03 17:30 [#02191123]
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It's an older card but I would imagine it should still have some life in it. The tuning parameter that had the most dramatic performance impact for me with nvidia was Option TripleBuffer true, but that was primarily for OpenGL performance. Not sure if it helps general performance. At this point continue consulting the Google oracle, the stock xorg.conf you get with Ubuntu rarely gives you the best performance.
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