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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-03-11 23:44 [#02184441]
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Tomato.
That aside: Should they be allowed to choose a deaf baby?
Should they be allowed to choose a baby at all?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-03-11 23:54 [#02184443]
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Yar its immoral to deliberately remove a sense I think but what do you expect when monkeys have technology.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-03-12 00:05 [#02184444]
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Who cares, let them have a deaf baby, its life won't be any more senseless anyway.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-03-12 00:44 [#02184448]
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How pathetic and selfish that those 2 would want their child to be deaf... I don't care if it makes their lives more "convenient" or quaint, or how proud they are of their language. They should want the absolute best for their kids instead of pining for them to share the same handicaps they have. Would you want to go through life never listening to a symphony or experiencing the sounds of the ocean?
I'm not saying we've perfected the technology of detecting genetic abnormalities, and I'm very open to the possibility that the discarded "deaf" embryos the article mentions may not be deaf at all. I don't support the notion that deaf people are better off not being born; I don't mean to sound detached or uncaring. I do, however, find it disquieting that certain people are so willing to perpetuate genetic disorders for the sake of the rights(?) of unborn embryos. They seem a tad transparent, as though their main goal is to prove that deaf people aren't missing out on anything. If they want another deaf child so badly, why not adopt one? Why go out of the way to create a new deaf child?
Note: it's been a long day and I should have gone to bed an hour ago, so I apologise if I missed some important details from the article.
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big
from lsg on 2008-03-12 01:22 [#02184455]
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i don't think they really want to do it they're turning our attention to the fact that ivf embryos are automatically discarded when they have deafness genes
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-03-12 03:45 [#02184479]
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wika wika slim shady.
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2008-03-12 03:54 [#02184483]
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damn oxygenfad i was gonnah do that!
do they get more state benefit if they have a deaf child?
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2008-03-12 03:57 [#02184485]
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most deff
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-03-12 04:12 [#02184487]
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rapper - i've got the x factor. cowell - which is what? rapper - the x factor is looks, personality and the character.
osbourne - talent! rapper - and talent.
hahaha! that reminded me of david brent.
and to answer the original question, should they be able to choose a deaf baby? no.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-03-12 05:04 [#02184493]
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There are some relevant questions here:
Is deafness a handicap? If so, why? What is a handicap? What's the difference between "forcing" your child to be deaf and "forcing" it to grow up where it will grow up as a result of being parented by you? Could it be a handicap to be born in a poor neighbourhood? It can sure hinder development.
Is it not possible that being deaf leads you to develop a different understanding of the world, meaning that deaf people can have valuable contributions to our understanding of central concepts? It's the same rationale certain people give for having more women in science (aside from the, in my opinion, morally better argument about equality), that women will be able to add their view on things, thus adding to our understanding. These two arguments presuppose certain things about deaf people and women respectively. Is this fair?
Can we consider unborn embryos from a "function" point of view like the ones presented in the first two question-clusters?
As Darius points out: What difference will it really make?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-03-12 05:09 [#02184495]
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What this world needs is white healthy males, and some women that can spit them out.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-03-12 05:14 [#02184496]
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when he realises not everyone is born deaf, he's also gonna realise his parents made him deaf by choice. i would hate to be in his position. who wouldnt.
let him hear.
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freqy
on 2008-03-12 07:05 [#02184511]
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"he's also gonna realise his parents made him deaf by choice.."
yeah,well he wont hear that from his parents ....he'll have to read it in the tabloids.
is freqy funny today or wha?
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