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arrived late to the berlin show, caught the last 20 mins or so, one of the most incredible things i've ever experienced |
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sorry, it's not a review of quaristice, it's a review of one of their live shows |
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>One poor man is so disoriented that he walks into a door. hahahah! |
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It seems that in the majority of cases either you love Autechre or you hate them. You either revel in their pseudo-intellectual creativity or think it's a load of self-important nonsense. Either the critics are being fooled, the fans are being fooled or Autechre are fooling themselves. Personally, I think there's a little bit of truth in all three. One simple fact remains though, their music is going nowhere at the moment, and repetition is boring whichever way you look at it. |
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...that last sentence - sad but true! |
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i guess they are doing a bit of a boc |
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i laughed at the thing about the guy walking in the door disoriented |
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Hafenklang Exil, HH gig really good fucking video, think its the best so far |
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I want to disagree on that, Quaristice for me is fresh and progressive for sure, however i havent heard Untilted yet... |
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Haha, yeah, I noticed that too.. It sounds like the reviewer hasn't been around drunk people before. |
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i'd expect a much more adventurous listen from the upcoming ae and H3o dvd set. . . |
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definitely the best uploaded so far... |
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Maybe but BoC are at least ten times more listenable than the newer autechre stuff. The only autechre stuff I listen to on a semi regular basis is pre confield. |
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What is it with guys in the UK and beards? Everywhere else in the world it's just facial hair. Unless you're a fatbeard (e.g. comic book store guy) |
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i found tch kind of painful quaristice on the other hand is like sex in my ears |
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You are right on the tch score. I think older work outshines that by a long distance. I would still rather listen tch than untilted or draft don't know about the new one. As they are more painful to me. |
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different strokes |
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Indeed, just my two cents for the day I suppose. |
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they point out all the good things in the review and yet they rate it with one star..go figure |
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that's pretty fucking awesome. they should definitely do the underworld thing where you can buy cdr's of the gig after every gig. and why shouldn't they? it's win-win. the fans are happy and they can pay their checks. |
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well said. |
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Agreed. |
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it seems like the coolest show ever |
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that makes me so angry. Ae are the best live act ever. |
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widows peak |
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chill out it's just the guardian |
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the guardian is usually spot on with its reviews. But not this time. This is a 10/10 gig. |
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Autechre's live show is mind blowing.\ we see glimpses of them on stage, moving slightly to the rhythm. like leaves shaking on a tree in fall. Tiny girations. Nimble finger-work. Mice moving, buttons depressing. THEY RULE!!!! |
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I always find gig/album reviews by big publications with lots of journalists to be somewhat redundant. It is afterall just one persons opinion, which is probably not even shared by the rest of the team, but is still published under the umbrella of the main company/magazine etc... |
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I like the Autechre Guardian gig review from Tuesday March 4th, 2008, because it is good. |
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I think it's bad for a newspaper to review Autechre, they're not going to "understand". |
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they're not a niche publication. besides, maybe they do 'understand' but just thought it was shit. |
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yeah, fuck all this "you don't understand" nonsense. it's sound and music, not a lot to it really. |
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There's more to it than you think.. I was fooled into watching some of these 'drum-track music shows' on youtube and now I can't hear out of my right ear. Well, maybe that's not true, but I have been having problems. (PS, p.691) |
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What's to understand? The people who don't understand are usually those who give good reviews, because they're too scared to be uncool and tell it like it is. As for live, never been to see them live, but I don't think Autechre should even play live. The ambience in theatres or halls does not suit this music at all, it's intimate and technical and suited to headphones or home listening. How can you stand with 500 other people and listen over those wretched, deafening 10 foot speakers. Sounds like the most tawdry, boring night out ever. |
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I love the idea of judging something before experiencing it. Most people will find Autechre are smashing live. |
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Was that review posted already? I remember reading it and commenting on it -- anyway, the reviewer is an ass, you don't need to have seen Ae play live to understand that. |
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"As for live, never been to see them live, but I don't think Autechre should even play live. " well i guess that about sums it up then, you've never seen them play therefore dont think they should ever play. great logical deduction |
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Agreed. I think where critics like this have heard so much bull about "understanding" it, they go at it like that. Then when they find they don't "get it" cos they're listening to it too hard, they don't like it. Put it on loud. Let your body move. Freak out. 5 stars out of 5. |
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thats not really agreeing. you don't have to 'get' something to enjoy it. this is still an opinion. for the record. i've seen autechre quite a few times and they've always been shit hot. anyway why shouldn't a newspaper review autchre? they much more likely to be objective about it. maybe a biased fanboy should write the review. |
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This actually sounds exactly like the first time I saw Autechre live. There was absolutely nothing to see except darkness, some smoke and the glowing apples on their laptops. The music was awful, an hour of pounding amorphous, unrecognizable noise. I bought a t-shirt at that show. it says "autechre" on the front in drab gray on gray and "ae" on the back, like a minimal version of the joke, "I went to ae and all i got was this lousy shirt." The second time I saw them though, It was fucking great. They had no laptops on stage that I could see. They just rocked like 2 or 3 drum machines and it ruled. |
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No no no no that's what I'm saying, you don't have to get it or understand it, just let yourself go along with it. I'm saying that critics try and understand it and there's no point. |
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no, you're still missing the point. |
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ok, well going by your logic, no one should review anything ever. ae are good but they're nothing special. |
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To be honest, I think reviews are kinda pointless. You could never easily get an unbiased review. People around me who haven't even heard any Autechre stuff already think it's shit cos I listen to it heh... Ae are brilliant and are producing the most innovative stuff around at the moment in electronic music. |
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