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freqy
on 2008-03-09 16:08 [#02183488]
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almost all data degrades and deteriorates .
so all the music we love one day will no longer be.
right?or wrong?.
tell me please this is not so.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-03-09 16:15 [#02183491]
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think you won't mind from your next life?
hi freqy =)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-03-09 16:26 [#02183494]
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It's definitely so, though in our information's case it won't be a result of deterioration, but rather, obliteration. ^_-
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freqy
on 2008-03-09 16:26 [#02183496]
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yellow mo :P
well there is so much great music and video out there on peoples hard drives and shelves at home ..but all of it is deteriorating...some very slowly some quite quickly..
no matter how many copies are made or copies of copies the data can only become less like the original.
a trillion years from now how will say the 'matrix' or starwars look or sound? will it be messed up very noisy ? a trillion years is a looong time.
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freqy
on 2008-03-09 16:28 [#02183498]
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obliteration? do you mean from meteors or comets smashing into earth before we have chance to defend the planet from a strike and preserve our knowledge/data?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-03-09 16:31 [#02183501]
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you're completely right. if all data decreases in quality instantly on creation, then it will always become obsolete
christ that's profoud freqy. good job
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2008-03-09 16:57 [#02183514]
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"no matter how many copies are made or copies of copies the data can only become less like the original. "
Not in the least. If that were the case then file-sharing and torrents wouldn't work. Actually computers wouldn't work at all.
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freqy
on 2008-03-10 07:59 [#02183672]
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every medium we store data on degrades over time and can have errors when writing and reading. so eventually over time the original data will change.
is that true to say?
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2008-03-10 08:27 [#02183677]
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it's called hard disk failure and it sucks balls.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-03-10 08:39 [#02183679]
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Is music data?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-03-10 08:43 [#02183680]
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you're talking about degrading of the physical medium.
everything that can be broken down/represented by values, and reassembled into an exact copy can be considered data.
my nuts on your chin, however ... is not considered data.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-03-10 08:44 [#02183681]
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what is that old rap song, with the wall-nuts, chin-nuts intro?
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diamondtron
on 2008-03-10 09:44 [#02183698]
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just buy vinyl, it's big, fun and lasts a lifetime also it produces a positive social infrastructure look at the state of things these days compared to 92 humanity is just gonna carry on deteriorating
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-03-10 11:54 [#02183742]
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Every time I play a record it degrades and while that is somewhat saddening, it's not totally awful. If old things were good as new they just wouldn't be the same. I guess it's natural for things used more often to degrade.
Digital data can of course be backed up. It can have hamming codes to detect and correct errors. Theoretically it could last a very long time with the correct infrastructure to support it.
There's just something about those old clicks and pops on Dad's LPs that make them so much better than the remastered CD version.
I think it's good for data to degrade. In a few hundred years do you think people would be interested in every crap homemade IDM track, every idiotic facebook post or blog entry. If something is worthy it will survive.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-03-10 12:12 [#02183744]
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there's just something about shit music.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2008-03-10 13:15 [#02183773]
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optical storage.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2008-03-10 13:18 [#02183774]
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forgot to add "holographic"
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2008-03-10 13:23 [#02183776]
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Do you mean this?
Maybe it will be the next version of High Definition?
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freqy
on 2008-03-10 15:11 [#02183798]
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The digital Dark Age is a term used to describe a possible future situation where it will be difficult or impossible to read historical documents, because they have been stored in an obsolete digital format. This could cause the period around the turn of the 21st century to be comparable to the Dark Ages during the Middle Ages in the sense that there will be a relative lack of written record. The term is not limited to text documents, but applies equally to photos, video, audio and other kinds of electronic documents.
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freqy
on 2008-03-10 15:16 [#02183800]
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i jumped the gun a bit there :/ this is refering to obsolete file formats and hardware. haha dont have nightmares
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freqy
on 2008-03-10 15:22 [#02183804]
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Physical deterioration
The first challenge digital preservation faces is that the media on which digital contents stand are more vulnerable to deterioration and catastrophic loss. While acid paper are prone to deterioration in terms of brittleness and yellowness, the deterioration does not become apparent in at least six decades; and when the deterioration really happens, it happens over decades too. It is also highly possible to retrieve all information without loss after deterioration is spotted. The recording media for digital data deteriorate at a much more rapid pace, and once the deterioration starts, in most cases there is already data loss. This characteristic of digital forms leaves a very short time frame for preservation decisions and actions.
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