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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 13:53 [#02183101]
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in my opinion it is anti-ethical paying for something that is available for free.
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oyvinto
on 2008-03-08 13:53 [#02183102]
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never did
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-03-08 13:55 [#02183103]
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i've bought 1 mp3 from bleep and that was tundra 4 by squarepusher. if i'm going to buy music i'd rather have a hard copy.
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Ead1528
from Bucks County, PA (United States) on 2008-03-08 14:03 [#02183104]
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When music is converted into a digital file, it can be copied infinitely, therefore it has no value. Putting a price on a digital file is wrong for that reason.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-03-08 14:08 [#02183106]
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Agreed.
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-03-08 14:09 [#02183107]
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you bought tundra 4 as well? :P
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 14:11 [#02183109]
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using the same logic books should be free as well.
it seems trivial to me. paying for a digital file is not different from paying for a hardcopy. the only difference perhaps is a romantic one: the need to have some kind of hard copy. hard copies are so last century. i mean, what is more important: having the book, or understanding the idea?
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2008-03-08 14:24 [#02183114]
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i honestly can't remeber the last time i payed for music.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 14:30 [#02183118]
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both are pretty important. i dont think ideas are more important than the material world surround us, but is so 21th century to think that way!
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 14:36 [#02183119]
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also, people still prefer to read a regular book rather than reading it on screen or printinf it at home. it is not the same with music, people rather listen to ipods than to cds...
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-03-08 14:46 [#02183121]
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when your pc/laptop/ipod inevitably breaks where is your music then?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-03-08 15:00 [#02183123]
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It is less expensive to buy mp3s, usually $10 usd for a release and you don't have to wait for mail order and pay for shipping when best buy doesn't carry it.
As I said before file sharing is good for rarities/live/b-sides or old shit you don't have on CD anymore, or if you just want to test drive something and clips on Amazon aren't cutting it.
But, c'mon, downloading new albums for free and just keeping them? I mean, I've done it its not like my shit don't stink, and maybe I justified it with a "oh this is just until I have money to buy it," but if I really think about it I know that just oh welling it and not paying up isnt right.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-03-08 15:06 [#02183124]
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or you could just think of it as giving the band money for making music.
this article from wired as well as this one are both interesting reads on the future of music and business in the age of p2p.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 15:17 [#02183126]
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ever heard of back-ups? external hd, or just burn to a cd. or even better, just dl it AGAIN (for free)
duh
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 15:19 [#02183127]
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and what do you do when you lose/break your precious hard-copy?
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 15:25 [#02183128]
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another one on hard copy VS digital files: if is a birthday present i think is pretty sucky giving itunes credits. if you want to make one happy, give him something to unwrap.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 15:28 [#02183129]
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blah, in the future everything will be available in the net, in the wi-fi, you will get everything in the air. HDs will be each day less necessary. digital data wins this one.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 15:28 [#02183130]
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remind me when your birthday is. because i'll give you a pizza in a box. is unfolding good too?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-03-08 15:33 [#02183132]
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So if a buy a CD the only things I should be paying for are materials and distribution costs. The band/artist shouldn't receive any money because the digital file on the CD is infinitly reproducable and has no value. See where Im going with this..?
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-03-08 15:36 [#02183135]
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would you honestly pay for a download and rip it to a cd?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 15:41 [#02183136]
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i wouldn't. i don't need a hard-copy. romantics aching for a hard-copy may. burning a cd is just one of many options.
but what do YOU do when your honestly bought hard-copy passes away? buy another one? or just go for the dl-option? lets be honest here.
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-03-08 15:47 [#02183139]
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i know you're probably going to think i'm lying but i would buy it again if it was worth it. i've bought drukqs twice because the first time i thought it was shit and sold it to a mate and then changed my mind. also rounds by fourtet twice because i spilt a drink on it.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-03-08 15:49 [#02183140]
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I wonder what the flashbulb thinks about this??
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 16:25 [#02183150]
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o, i believe you alright. if it was worth it, i'd buy another copy myself as well.
but that implies there are times where it's not worth it to buy a second hard-copy. ok, i think we're getting onto something here.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 16:37 [#02183155]
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aw, thanks, but for internet friends e-cards are just enough :)
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-03-08 16:52 [#02183168]
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as long as you print it and hang it on your wall
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2008-03-08 17:12 [#02183194]
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sure
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