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Which movie do you like more? |
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I have seen the first half of Death Proof (and it didn't impress me that much, although I gather that the 2nd half is more exciting) so far, but I loved Planet Terror, so for now I'll vote for: PLANET TERROR |
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Rodriguez seems to be more in love with the idea of just making trashy films, instead of trying to assimilate or subvert them like Tarantino. I guess that means he's cooler and better. |
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planet terror. no question. |
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Death Blow > Death Proof |
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planet terror for bruce willis turning into a giant blob of goo death proof for the array of women |
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Quentin is my fav director but planet terror is funnier... so i go with PLANET TERROR |
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Planet Terror, the dialogue in Death Proof is one of the worst in movie history. |
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Death Proof fucking sucked so bad I never downloaded Planet Terror. |
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Death Proof: 6/10 Planet Terror: 4/10 |
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i've seen planet terror and found it quite funny still yet to see death proof. want to though. |
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Planet Terror was terrible. Death Proof was good. |
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I though Death Proof was the best. One was really awesome to watch the first time around, the other was something I would watch over and over. I creamed my pants watching both in the theater, I'm a huge b-movie buff, and I really enjoyed the film(s). Need more Fred Williamson ! |
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both have hot girls, guns and blood, so both are ace. but in the end, i'm more a death proof kinda guy. hot girls mix better with behind the wheels of hot cars than running screaming from aliens. |
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o boy. that last sentence turned out pretty good... |
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You have to be really into Tarantino's dorky hipster dialogue to fully enjoy the 1st half of Death Proof. Since it is supposed to be kitchy he takes full liberty in laying it on thick. I was disappointed that these were released seperately on DVD. Because of what they are I don't think they quite cut it as standalone movies. I was more into the theatre double feature experience with all of the commercials and intermission reels. Hopefully they will release a special edition box with both movies and all the extras. |
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Death Proof is great. Love the crash scenes. Really good action directing,..better than Planet terror in that way. Planet terror is non stop action, and funnier though so some people might like that better |
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I love the classic film look of the movies. |
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i'd like to watch... "MACHETE" lol |
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death proof |
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both terrible |
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I love Deathproof, especially the full length version. I'm a big fan of Tarantino-style character study ala Jackie Brown and I feel like Deathproof was exactly that. In the first half we are introduced to a group of fine young ladies. We get to hang out with them and fall in love with them. We begin to see why Stuntman Mike is so enamored with them. Along those lines, one of my favorite elements is the subplot where the Eli Roth and his buddy are plotting to fuck our girls. By that point in the movie, we know the girls so much better than these assholes do. It makes us feel closer to the girls and it makes their murder so much more tragic. Then part II. We meet another group of fine women, but these women are far less helpless than the first set. Again we see why Stuntman Mike likes them so much but we also see that perhaps this time Mike has met his match. We begin to salivate at the prospect of revenge for the death of our first set of girls. The climax plays out as a delicious, merciless, hunting of the so-called Death Proof Mike who is revealed as nothing more than a crying baby; a helpless insect at the hands of our vengeful women who finish him off with big squish under a boot. I stood up and cheered! |
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good review |
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yea, I'd have to say Death Proof satisfied something primal in me AS WELL AS deliver some great set-ups and dialogue, so I'd say I have more lasting respect to it than Planet Terror, but this is a tough choice since 1) they're very different in style, 2) they're both good. |
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The zombie one was utter shit, but pulp fiction and kill bills were utter nonshit. You feel me? |
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That machete fake preview wasn't even funny or interesting. Sometimes I just want to implode this whole galaxy. |
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i like the track titled "Chick Habit" by An April March |
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I do too. |
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in fact, the entire death proof soundtrack is pretty solid. |
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I think the best thing about Death Proof was its soundtrack (esp Chick Habit by the mighty Serge Gainsbourg). Other than that it was a sexist piece of crap featuring a bunch of shallow stereotype girls (some laughably masquerading as anti-stereotypes) and the only saving grace, Kurt Russell. I can't believe someone compared it to Jackie Brown which for me is the only decent Tarantino-helmed film - this was no great character study, it was 75 minutes of tedious and cut-out-and-keep dialogue, one so-so car chase in the middle, and a semi-decent (but by no means classic) car chase at the end with an "unexpected" result. For me, it failed on every level as an Exploitation Film - it was insincere and too self-referentially smug (the dialogue about the original Gone In 60 Seconds for example) which meant it never remained "in character", it was far too slick and clunky (the double-take dialogue, the jump cut which was far more effective in Planet Terror and not nearly as obvious), and most importantly, it just didn't have the atmosphere of an Exploitation film: the nearest it comes is in the sexist depiction of its female characters, and I'm highly doubtful that that is a deliberate thing. Tarantino is interesting to listen to when he's talking about film (as in the Extra Features) - he should maybe make documentaries instead of films. |
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Very well put. I couldn't agree more. |
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I think it's either sexist or really feminist, probably both. In other words, it's simultaneously sexploitative and fem lib. And, as the guys in Spinal Tap put it, "what's wrong with being sexy?" Maybe it's putting women back some eight years, or maybe the final frontier between women and joyriding has been breached - the last taboo broken. After this, there is no going back to women dressing up normally and talking slow and non-assertively. No, it's cars and guys all the way. And random lap dances for camera. Anyway, it's very much in the jackie brown vein of "sexist" (re-watch some of the scenes in JB to confirm the point), although not nearly as good or complete. It depends on what kind of porridge you've eaten on the morning of the day you watch a Tarantino film how you feel afterwards. |
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death proof haven't seen planet terror yet |
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quentin and his biggest passion |
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Where is your avatar from??? I fucking love it. |
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Death proof just took itself way too seriously, and the stunt woman playing herself was gay. i just felt like it was seriously pretentious as fuck |
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where as planet terror had classic lines like "i want your brains..... so i can gain your knowledge!" no bullshit tangential too cool for school dialogue on 70s car chase movies and how ABSOLUTELY IMPROBABLE a group of younger 20 something girls who love these movies would be. 'YOU HAVENT SEEN VANISHING POINT GIRL!' (me: shoots gat at screen ) |
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so does my 2 year old daughter. |
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You have an interesting perspective about this film. I do think it reminds me more of Jackie Brown than any of his other films. Of course the films are quite different, but I feel like they are less driven by plot an more by scenes where we just sorta hang out with the characters and eves drop into their conversations. Tarantino does this in his other films, Reservoir Dogs especially. It also has strong female characters. Jackie's ability to control Ordell at gunpoint showed similar Bad Ass-itude to the girls in Deathproof. I guess I can agree Deathproof is mildly sexist. But I don't quite get what you mean by "Masquerading." I think Tarantino has put legitimately strong and attractive female characters in Deathproof. Even if we do spend a lot of time looking at their sexy feet. Their conversations about their jobs as stunt people, interest in cars, guns, and gearhead movies makes them quite authentic to me. This may be more true of the more complete feature length cut, as opposed to the Grindhouse cut. Unless you are implying like jakeroffer that girls like these are "absolutely improbable," which seems like an untrue statement in itself. I think I agree more with BoxBob that it may be a little sexist while also feminist; Sexploitation in the first half and then less so in the second half. I agree the women are sexy. Tarantino certainly celebrates his love of women's feet in this film, but he's a dude, and kind of a playa (at least he fancies himself as a playa). Then he has his bad ass girls at the end, who I think Tarantino probably finds even more sexy than the first group because they are also Bad Mother Fuckers. |
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oh my avatar is Jesus as a dog that ate some chocolate from last friday's Achewood comic. |
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When you say "Jackie Brown vein of 'sexist'" what do you mean? Are you referring to how the conniving woman who steals money she didn't earn from the man who worked so very hard to earn it and then killing the poor sap with a sucker-punch, shot in the dark? Or are you just referring to the ogling of Melanie's legs and her capriciousness in the kitchen with Louis? |
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yea, I think Jackie Brown, I mean the character, is a highly powerful female protagonist, treated with respect and dignity by the screenwriter-director. however, it seems that Tarantino needs a kind of more degrading woman in his film to balance things out, or just to play out his sexual and sadistic fantasies - hence we have Melanie, first in the kitchen, and later portrayed as a total bitch and shot right dead by De Niro's character. I can see Tarantino grinning in his chair... |
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yeah like, Tarantino just loves the ladies. He uses a variety of female characters in his films. From the cute helpless Fabienne in Pulp Fiction, to the sexy superhero The Bride. Is he sexist though? I see it more as a celebration. |
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like I said, when female powers are fully unleashed, people can see it as either degrading to women or liberating to them... the same with porn, erotica, mini-skirts, bikinis and teenage make-up. |
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I would say his sexism stems from idolising women (and thus objectifying them) rather than from misogyny. I wouldn't class their powers as being fully unleashed - they are cardboard Tarantino figurines inserted into self-conscious plots - they are his fantasy figures rather than feministic roles. |
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i can agree with that, their being Tarantino's fantasy girls. I guess i share his fantasy. I don't really think they are totally objectified though. they have fully cohesive and realized personalities even if they represent Tarantino's idea of feminism. At any rate, he has a signature style of objectifying women. As a dude, i can only speculate that some women might actually find it flattering. |
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Tarantino is a Misandrist more than anything Id say. Yep. I looked it up..Oh, Kurt Rusell should have one an Oscar. He was great. |
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