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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2008-02-18 01:13 [#02176474]
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I love this shit!!! TOYs!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-18 01:23 [#02176477]
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haha
awesome
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big
from lsg on 2008-02-18 01:26 [#02176478]
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stupid primates
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2008-02-18 02:03 [#02176483]
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Good fun. I know a few artists around where I live. Whenever my friends get new apartments the walls are full of graffiti, in just days. Especially my friends apartments in Boston.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-18 02:20 [#02176487]
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that's not art! it's vandalism.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2008-02-18 03:04 [#02176504]
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How is graffiti not a form of art? Not in that video, that's just taggingm but i'm talking about real art, and street stenciling.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-02-18 04:00 [#02176534]
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haha @ pendulum in that.
banksy killed the graff art scene. noones even mentionable next to him (and i know a shitton of people here are disagree with me on that one).
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-18 04:06 [#02176535]
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i was being sarcastic. i write too. or wrote i should say. i reckon hanal will know of my old crew if he hangs around manchester. sarcasm doesn't work too well in text form.
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big
from lsg on 2008-02-18 04:10 [#02176536]
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tags suck might as well pee off your territory
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-18 04:20 [#02176537]
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but they look pretty.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-02-18 04:20 [#02176538]
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comeonnnnnnn people now
smileoneyerbother everybody get togetherrrrrrrr
tryand lone oneanother rightnowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
WHEN I WAS AN ALIEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN......
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-02-18 04:20 [#02176539]
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Not all graffiti is art, let's not idolise it.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 04:25 [#02176542]
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i hate tags
they should write something legible and meaningful
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2008-02-18 06:20 [#02176561]
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lately pepole have been ever since stenciling is getting more popular.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2008-02-18 06:25 [#02176563]
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and yeah.... banksy is like......beyond amazing. there isn't even a word for the talent that guy has.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 07:42 [#02176600]
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me <3 banksy
banksy gave me hope where there was none
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PS
on 2008-02-18 07:54 [#02176603]
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I don't like it one bit. Ah, maybe a little bit!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 10:05 [#02176630]
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Blek
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-02-18 10:05 [#02176631]
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ONLINE BOMBING
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2008-02-18 10:14 [#02176634]
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Ooh... that's sexy... I want to be caned...
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-18 10:29 [#02176648]
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sarcasm or not, 1up was right, it is vandalism pure and simple. there's no fucking art involved in that video, you show me where the art is? there's no originality, there's no important statements being made, there's nothing asthetically pleasing about it, they're just scrawling their names on walls and making the place look run down and shitty. those guys need to get a fucking life and grow out of the 5 year olds mentality of ownership.
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-18 10:31 [#02176652]
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why don't they go home and get themselves a canvas and try creating something other than some shitty tag over and over and over again.
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2008-02-18 10:35 [#02176655]
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that is ugly
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 10:36 [#02176656]
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unfortunately all they really care about is their 'rep'
and if we're being honest about it, they're probably not all that smart neither. probably a bit thick in the head
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 10:38 [#02176660]
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What is house? I mean, what is Art?! Two questions I'll never know the answer to. One of my young neighbours goes out at 3am and tags places and he is expressing himself, maybe it's not very academic or aesthetically pleasing he still needs to do it. The video was crap though, the need to do it is more interesting for me
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 10:41 [#02176664]
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i see the need as more of an egotistical insecurity
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 10:47 [#02176673]
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Maybe it is? Why do painters "artists" feel the need to perpetuate a certain image and put their name to it?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 10:48 [#02176676]
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my spelling is impeccable today!
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-02-18 10:49 [#02176678]
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personally i think drawing giant knobs on everything is much more entertaining.
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-02-18 10:52 [#02176679]
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grafitti is old hat and therefore resides within the realm of gayness + banksy is the george micheal of grafitti
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 10:54 [#02176682]
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True, the art of giant knobs in Tiananmen square etc. drawn in the Super bad film were great!
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-02-18 11:01 [#02176690]
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DAIM PISSES ON BANKSY
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 11:01 [#02176692]
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the insecurity of the artist ego is one level to what i would call a 'proper artist' doing art for what i consider to be the right reasons, one of which is to explore creativity in new and inventive ways, to explore the human condition and exchange ideas through various mediums. the ego insecurity in the case of the 'real artist' only adds to the human quality it has that allows people to relate.
this however (to me), seems only concerned with the ego as a dominant statement, 'this is what i do, here i am, i don't give a fuck what you think', and frankly i don't see it going too far beyond this. like i said, 99% of the time you can't even see what it says and when you can read it, it usually just says the 'street' name of the vandal, such as 'rush', 'icebitch' and / or 'fuckqueen'
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 11:42 [#02176713]
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Exactly! You don't get it.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 11:52 [#02176719]
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am i incapable of getting it?
why don't you explain? if you've got a good enough point then i'm willing to be swayed
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 12:00 [#02176720]
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I don't know you? I don't know what you do and don't feel about "art". I'm not about to do a diatribe changing your opinion. It's more fun researching why/how youself.
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2008-02-18 12:12 [#02176728]
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wtf man?! you guys aren't even making any sense any more!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 12:14 [#02176730]
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go to sleep Sandy. It's bed time.
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2008-02-18 12:18 [#02176731]
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heh... I really do think I could use a nap or something...
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 12:21 [#02176732]
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i just want to make sure here. you are aware that i am talking about just the pens, right?
i can appreciate tags with colour done with spray cans because they have some visual appeal and often bring life to dead scenes
for me. the pen tagging just reminds me of school toilet vandalism done by the thugs who i always fucking hated
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-02-18 12:58 [#02176745]
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God knows! It's nearly 5am here and I'm talking shit for the fun of it. Tagging originally was/is a territory thing. It is pretty animal like really. It doesn't need a critique from bystanders to be authentic. I'm sure anyone here now could critique your contribution to being alive now and what you have given so far.
You don't like pens. What have you got Raz0rblade?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 13:03 [#02176747]
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i love pens. but i don't like what they're doing with them. me no likey. me think it look ugly and threatening. me feel like people saying 'this is mine. if you sit on that, with what that got me tag on it, then you is sittin on me, AND I WILL FUCKING CUT YOU'
that's how i feels
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-02-18 13:03 [#02176748]
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Darren suked ur mums nob
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 13:04 [#02176750]
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haha
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 13:05 [#02176751]
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pens = penis?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-18 13:07 [#02176752]
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those tags are a from of creativity, just as music is. what they're doing is essentially urban calligraphy. it's pure form and hardly any function (well perhaps to piss-tag their territory). i'd rather have those kids express themselves this way than violence.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-02-18 13:10 [#02176754]
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I am usually impressed when I see someone tag the side of a bridge going over an on-ramp with no easy way as to how they got up there.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-02-18 13:12 [#02176755]
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so i should put some of my tracks on a ghetto blaster and walk around london as a direct way of dealing with my uncontrollable violent tendencies?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-18 13:15 [#02176756]
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no, you personally should climb the big ben with your soundblaster. great view is guaranteed and no-one will have to listen as well.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-02-18 13:15 [#02176757]
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Vandalism. They should buy a canvas and got to art school.
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