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rad smiles
on 2008-02-14 11:22 [#02174908]
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The Pentagon is planning to shoot down a broken spy satellite expected to hit the Earth in early March, The Associated Press has learned.
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thatne
from United States on 2008-02-14 11:22 [#02174909]
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:P
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-14 11:25 [#02174913]
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It is not known where the satellite will hit. But officials familiar with the situation say about half of the 5,000-pound spacecraft is expected to survive its blazing descent through the atmosphere and will scatter debris - some of it potentially hazardous - over several hundred miles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-14 11:25 [#02174914]
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i hope i find some.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-14 12:06 [#02174938]
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why dont they just go up and repair it? or is that too costly?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-02-14 12:09 [#02174939]
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what's the point of "shooting it down" if half of it will still make it to the ground? shouldn't it be blown up so that it doesn't rain burning fragments down onto people? Don't get me wrong I'd love to have a piece of it.. but... lol
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:31 [#02174948]
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most likely be shot with SM-3, kinetic missile
only ship-launched exo-atmospheric missile in inventory.
sources indicate launch from USS Lake Erie (CG 70)
Zephyr Twin, it's good to ask questions, but have you ever thought to understand that the people doing this more than likely know what they're doing?
larn, no time for such a project. not to mention costly ... not to mention atmospheric drag from LEO would make things very difficult at that altitude.
the US has been able to "shoot" down sats for at least 45years. It's no big deal; The chinese made a stink about it (trying to "prove" something) when they shot down one of their aging weather sats last year with a land-based medium ballistic missile. Which wasn't too difficult, considering they were tracking their own sat and it was in LEO. They don't have the ability to do much besides that at this point in time (especially past LEO). I assume they were trying to make a point that they had the capability but all they did was spread debris and piss off a bunch of nations, etc.
I'm not sure if it really needs to be shot down, or if the US is using this as an experiment for the new SM-3 missile for anti-ballistic missile defense (during re-entry phase, although most make attempt to hit during boost-phase).
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:34 [#02174950]
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more on the SM-3
the IR seeker on it is quite incredible :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-02-14 12:38 [#02174952]
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I'm sure they've got a good idea of how to do it so that half of it still reaches the ground. I don't think it ever hurts to question a plan that could be improved. Wouldn't it be better if the satellite was blown up into tiny enough fragments in space that none of would reach the ground and potentially injure people?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:39 [#02174953]
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by-the-way, it would be a "first" to intercept from a sea-launched missile. this would be a good test of aegis and proven ability of US Navy.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:45 [#02174956]
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Spy-sats are generally designed to be small and have 'other' forms of power production than those large, pesky solar panels that every country can see from the ground ;)
I would assume that the time/location of SM-3 launch would allow them to bring it down over a controlled area (ocean) or someplace for recovery.
The point of the intercept looks to be exactly what you described. Kinetic warhead intercept to break it up into smaller pieces that would then be destroyed upon re-entry.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2008-02-14 13:45 [#02174983]
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ah, nothing stirs the passions like a shower potentially hazardous debris. bring it on!
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-14 13:52 [#02174986]
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i'm going to wear a hard hat just in case, hey elusive how come you know so much about this stuff.. are you an X navy seal or something?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 13:55 [#02174988]
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no military experience, but this stuff really intrigues me.
next to impossible that someone would actually get hit from the debris, lol.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 13:57 [#02174989]
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and the sat is so low in LEO right now that the debris-from-impact would have no chance of being shot high enough to be in a stable orbit... unlike the chinese anti-sat test last year
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-14 14:02 [#02174994]
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Surely it would be more in keeping with US policy to wipe out every other nation on earth than risk this borked satellite falling (literally) into the wrong hands. You can bet it's been discussed, at least.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-14 14:04 [#02174996]
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yeah it's fascinating
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 14:10 [#02174997]
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i do agree with putin about his remarks on the arms race. it is becoming out of hand and he will step things up, now.
china/russia recently were looking to sign a treaty to ban dev of space weapons (to limit a space-arms race), but the US declined. And rightfully so,
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-02-14 15:29 [#02175032]
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i wanna be the first kid on my block to collect a piece.
:p
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-14 16:40 [#02175046]
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i just think of Space Junk by Devo.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-21 12:03 [#02177724]
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way to go, team!
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-21 12:28 [#02177734]
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I'm betting the toxic fuel tank wasn't hit and that it rains down on Tehran "accidently".
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-21 12:34 [#02177738]
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you don't really understand the situation, do you?
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