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offline rad smiles on 2008-02-14 11:22 [#02174908]
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The Pentagon is planning to shoot down a broken spy
satellite expected to hit the Earth in early March, The
Associated Press has learned.


 

offline thatne from United States on 2008-02-14 11:22 [#02174909]
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:P


 

offline rad smiles on 2008-02-14 11:25 [#02174913]
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It is not known where the satellite will hit. But officials
familiar with the situation say about half of the
5,000-pound spacecraft is expected to survive its blazing
descent through the atmosphere and will scatter debris -
some of it potentially hazardous - over several hundred
miles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because
of the sensitivity of the matter.



 

offline rad smiles on 2008-02-14 11:25 [#02174914]
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i hope i find some.


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-14 12:06 [#02174938]
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why dont they just go up and repair it? or is that too
costly?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-02-14 12:09 [#02174939]
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what's the point of "shooting it down" if half of it will
still make it to the ground? shouldn't it be blown up so
that it doesn't rain burning fragments down onto people?
Don't get me wrong I'd love to have a piece of it.. but...
lol


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:31 [#02174948]
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most likely be shot with SM-3, kinetic missile

only ship-launched exo-atmospheric missile in inventory.

sources indicate launch from USS Lake Erie (CG 70)

Zephyr Twin, it's good to ask questions, but have you ever
thought to understand that the people doing this more than
likely know what they're doing?

larn, no time for such a project. not to mention costly ...
not to mention atmospheric drag from LEO would make things
very difficult at that altitude.

the US has been able to "shoot" down sats for at least
45years. It's no big deal; The chinese made a stink about
it (trying to "prove" something) when they shot down one of
their aging weather sats last year with a land-based medium
ballistic missile. Which wasn't too difficult, considering
they were tracking their own sat and it was in LEO. They
don't have the ability to do much besides that at this point
in time (especially past LEO). I assume they were trying to
make a point that they had the capability but all they did
was spread debris and piss off a bunch of nations, etc.

I'm not sure if it really needs to be shot down, or if the
US is using this as an experiment for the new SM-3 missile
for anti-ballistic missile defense (during re-entry phase,
although most make attempt to hit during boost-phase).


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:34 [#02174950]
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more on the SM-3

the IR seeker on it is quite incredible :)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-02-14 12:38 [#02174952]
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I'm sure they've got a good idea of how to do it so that
half of it still reaches the ground. I don't think it ever
hurts to question a plan that could be improved. Wouldn't it
be better if the satellite was blown up into tiny enough
fragments in space that none of would reach the ground and
potentially injure people?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:39 [#02174953]
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by-the-way, it would be a "first" to intercept from a
sea-launched missile. this would be a good test of aegis
and proven ability of US Navy.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 12:45 [#02174956]
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Spy-sats are generally designed to be small and have 'other'
forms of power production than those large, pesky solar
panels that every country can see from the ground ;)

I would assume that the time/location of SM-3 launch would
allow them to bring it down over a controlled area (ocean)
or someplace for recovery.

The point of the intercept looks to be exactly what you
described. Kinetic warhead intercept to break it up into
smaller pieces that would then be destroyed upon re-entry.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2008-02-14 13:45 [#02174983]
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ah, nothing stirs the passions like a shower potentially
hazardous debris. bring it on!


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-14 13:52 [#02174986]
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i'm going to wear a hard hat just in case, hey elusive how
come you know so much about this stuff.. are you an X navy
seal or something?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 13:55 [#02174988]
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no military experience, but this stuff really intrigues me.

next to impossible that someone would actually get hit from
the debris, lol.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 13:57 [#02174989]
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and the sat is so low in LEO right now that the
debris-from-impact would have no chance of being shot high
enough to be in a stable orbit... unlike the chinese
anti-sat test last year


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-14 14:02 [#02174994]
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Surely it would be more in keeping with US policy to wipe
out every other nation on earth than risk this borked
satellite falling (literally) into the wrong hands. You can
bet it's been discussed, at least.


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-14 14:04 [#02174996]
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yeah it's fascinating


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-14 14:10 [#02174997]
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i do agree with putin about his remarks on the arms race.
it is becoming out of hand and he will step things up, now.

china/russia recently were looking to sign a treaty to ban
dev of space weapons (to limit a space-arms race), but the
US declined. And rightfully so,


 

offline cyrstal dude from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-02-14 15:29 [#02175032]
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i wanna be the first kid on my block to collect a piece.

:p


 

offline rad smiles on 2008-02-14 16:40 [#02175046]
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i just think of Space Junk by Devo.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-21 12:03 [#02177724]
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way to go, team!


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-21 12:28 [#02177734]
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I'm betting the toxic fuel tank wasn't hit and that it rains
down on Tehran "accidently".


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-02-21 12:34 [#02177738]
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you don't really understand the situation, do you?


 


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