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Anyone watch this? I enjoyed it, although I wonder if he got the idea from that episode of The Simpsons where Homer is duped by the same thing to bet on the football until Lisa points the system out to him--she's a clever one. |
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have you got a link to the video please |
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I downloaded it from Bitsoup. It'll be available on channel 4's On Demand service. |
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I started to work out what he was doing from the coin "trick". I still don't have a clue about how he did that thing with the photographs though. |
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It was pretty damn good, and working with logic and probability in music/synthesis lately helped with working out his "System". pff what a cheat :P |
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really enjoyed it. kept u guessing, he's a great showman. i think him and dawkins have the same itenery. |
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It was a great "penny dropping" moment when I realised what he was up to; I like the way he challenges perception on his shows. |
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spot on. i saw it coming about halfway throu. the photo bit was obviously nlp but it's still clever, but it's a shame he never explains his techniques (or v rarely), i think a lot of ppl could learn a lot if he did. |
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I know that he has a couple of books out, but I'm not sure how detailed the content is. I'm guessing it's a bit like "magick" or spirituality - a person may give details of some techniques / combination of techniques which have worked for them, which they've learnt and evolved, or created themselves, rather than a blueprint of how it's done. Like I said before, I wish I had that level of concentration :@ |
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i read some of one of his books its highly entertaining, not strenuous and just like him, toungue-in-cheek. i think youd enjoy it. |
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Cool - reckon I'll pick one up: I enjoyed the darkness of Trick or Treat?. . .so up until a certain point I wasn't sure if he'd let the woman lose her money, but then I twigged that he'd probably not put the money on the horse he stated :D |
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trick or treat didnt work for me i spotted it too early and ye i suspected he hadnt made the bet and had pretended to choose the outsider especially after he didnt mention the odds to her, not that she wouldve twigged |
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haha yeah, after having her world whipped out from underneath her about a minute before the race started probably left her thinking less than clear! :D |
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i guess its a known fact he "chooses" susceptable people anyway. i got the feeling most of them didnt have degrees in astrophysics |
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haha, what a rube. |
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like any good stage magician, he leaves sufficient wiggle room for wild speculation and mystery, he's not going to simply reveal everything - that would run contrary to his purposes as an entertainer... but no matter how much i enjoyed watching The System, my enjoyment was slightly dampened by the fact that I figured his "system" out within five minutes into the show... oh well and yea, I have no idea how that photograph thing was done... |
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Wasn't it done in the same way? Many groups of "experts" run through the room over many days until he jags the right combo. The 24 different ways of lining up are covered by having 24 different envelopes in the room. He just picks the right envelope once he sees how they line up. The photo's are harder. If there are truly 500 different photo's it seems impossible. 500x499x498x497 is a massive number......... hmmmmm |
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yea that's conceivable - that's what I thought about the envelopes, anyway, that he'd just pick the one that had the right combo... but, in that case, how many hundreds of "experts" would he have to have contacted? this is getting really strange... there has to be some trick to the photos, some sleight-of-hand or just suggestion... |
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regarding the photos trick, i believe there is preparation before the stunt is pulled off. for example, he might have mixed in a number code in an email to them. i also noticed how he suggests to them not to let the names influence them, which most people wouldn't have considered initially, so by saying that he's pushing them in the direction he wants. |
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hahahaha what a fucking twat so basically, you bet on all the horses. what a twat. |
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Yeah, by using suggestion you could reduce the odds a little....... and then run multiple groups until you luck out. "hahahaha what a fucking twat so basically, you bet on all the horses. what a twat." |
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what's so mystifying the way he did it was by betting on all the horses of all the races ie, WHAT A TWAT |
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Aengus, I think you missed the point . . . the point was that he demonstrated how something apparently impossible and miraculous, which people would fall for (e.g. Religion), is in fact quite easily achieved through misdirection and showmanship. His point is to generally demystify, whilst putting in a couple of genuine head-scratchers. |
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FUCK THAT, I WANTED A WAY TO WIN AT THE BOOKIES THE CUNT you're right though |
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hehe :D |
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I don't think he proved much, except that people can be gullible. What is proves about homeopathy or religion is another matter. |
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i guess u all missed the nlp and auto suggestion, oh well... |
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figured it out form the beginning, very old scam. although couldn't figure out the coin one (slapped my forehead when he revelaead it) the photo thing must be prepared. and the eding i do't know what to say about it. probably the whole thing is acted. |
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yeah, it's a verry old betting scam. |
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I doubt very much there are actors, because Derren Brown is always stresses that he does not use actors (except as stooges when setting up a "member of the public"). |
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