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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-18 23:32 [#02176937]
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they were slugs. and it wasn't really a silencer. it's some kind of augment designed to change the noise of the slug leaving the barrel. to make it sound like something that is not a gun. its not silent at all, just not recognizable as a gun
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-18 23:49 [#02176938]
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the movie does not 'end' badly in my opinion.
*SPOILER*
I always liked to hear about the oldtimers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself gainst the oldtimers. Can't help but wonder how they would've operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the gas chamber at Huntsville here a while back. My arrest and my testimony. He killed a fourteen-year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been planning to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell. Be there in about fifteen minutes. I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't. The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job - not to be glorious. But I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand. You can say it's my job to fight it, but I don't know what it is anymore. More than that, I don't want to know. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He would have to say, "O.K., I'll be part of this world."
that monologue of Ed's is really it. the movie is just an old cop from huntsville texas coming to terms with modern psychocriminals, the likes of which didn't exist in "the old times". if you can then look at Ed Tom Lee's final monologue as the "action packed explosive ending" then it's just as good. that's how i see it, at least. ed tom lee's final monologue is as good as any 2-minute long explosion or shootout. if youre totally disconnected from ed tom lee throughout the film then i think its easier to miss the point
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b6662966
from ? on 2008-02-18 23:49 [#02176939]
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Actually I could swear the Coen brothers have said that it was infact a shotgun firing buckshot in an interview. I remember reading in some forum that silencers for bugshot actually do exist and are specifically designed to prevent the buckshot from catching, I think lower velocity amo is also needed to make the shotgun silencer actually silent.
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b6662966
from ? on 2008-02-18 23:50 [#02176940]
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bugshot = buckshot
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-18 23:53 [#02176941]
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ed tom lee's final monologue:
*SPOILER*
Loretta Bell: How'd you sleep? Ed Tom Bell: I don't know. Had dreams. Loretta Bell: Well you got time for 'em now. Anythin' interesting?
Ed Tom Bell: They always is to the party concerned. Loretta Bell: Ed Tom, I'll be polite. Ed Tom Bell: Alright then. Two of 'em. Both had my father in 'em . It's peculiar. I'm older now then he ever was by twenty years. So in a sense he's the younger man. Anyway, first one I don't remember to well but it was about meeting him in town somewhere, he's gonna give me some money. I think I lost it. The second one, it was like we was both back in older times and I was on horseback goin' through the mountains of a night. Goin' through this pass in the mountains. It was cold and there was snow on the ground and he rode past me and kept on goin'. Never said nothin' goin' by. He just rode on past... and he had his blanket wrapped around him and his head down and when he rode past I seen he was carryin' fire in a horn the way people used to do and I could see the horn from the light inside of it. 'Bout the color of the moon. And in the dream I knew that he was goin' on ahead and he was fixin' to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that whenever I got there he would be there. And then I woke up.
couldnt really ask for a better ending than that
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Matik
from Oregon (United States) on 2008-02-19 12:16 [#02177071]
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*spoilers*
'cept it didn't end there as it could have, right? it went on to have the killer toying with the girlfriend and then the car crash, which i liked because as he was driving you could see the green light and i was thinking "he's gonna get smashed" but then it took longer than i thought so i was thinking maybe he would not get rammed after all and then BAM!
the three friends i was with all groaned when it ended, but i laughed, as much at their groans as anything else, but also because it was such a non-hollywood ending. really, the whole movie was like some kind of anti-hollywood formula statement. hero dies, pretty girl dies, tommy lee jones doesn't accomplish shit and there's no resolution. haha.
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