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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 12:47 [#02158240]
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I tried to make it melodic and shit, its a work in progress until ive gotten some feedback though
thanks=!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 13:17 [#02158248]
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Writing this, as i'm listening to it for the second time.
The pitched kickdrums are pretty sweet.
I think one thing you should think about, which is difficult when you make electronic music, is not to simply make a melody, and then put more and more shit over it, as it progresses. Theres some obvious melodic progression in your song, that never comes, and it annoys me. Instead it just keeps going on and on, untill it stops, and then goes into something different, that then evolves by putting more and more layers on top. The second part is less inspiring, and less "powerfull" than the first bit, wich is a bit weird.
The theme you begin with, maybe it should return in the end. This is one of the things that make people go "fuck yeah" and bop their heads.
You must captivate the listener, and listening to the same stuff over and over again, just doesnt do the trick (for me).
That said, if what you aim to do, is make repetetive music that evolves slowly, then ignore the critique.
I wish i had the file, so i could mess around with it, and show you what i mean.
That said, i like the sounds a lot, and the melody that you did make, is nice. I'd love to hear what you come with.
Hope this is usefull!
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-27 13:19 [#02158249]
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first thought: good beat second thought: slightly awkward beat third thought: this melody doesnt fit the beat fourth thought: melody is improving, still not sure it fits the beat
fifth thought: nice bassline, melodies improving vastly. sixth thought: everything fits now. sounds pretty fantastic.
seventh and final thought: great breakdown and wonderful track overall, even if the beginning could be finetuned.
NICE!
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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 13:22 [#02158250]
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yeah you're right, im currently working on making some progression to it.. thanks for the critique.
the repetition part bugs me too, but i usually need several revisions before all of it is complete.
thanks though i wasnet fully aware a progression was needed but upon further listening its clear!
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-27 13:25 [#02158251]
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there is loads of progression. i think DP means there isnt a proper climax for it, or a catchy hook that returns after the break.
i think it's too bad the melodies overtake the beat at a certain point. there is little left to nod your head to except hi-hats.
still great.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 13:27 [#02158252]
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It's MY humble oppinion. I only bother writing critique to stuff i find interesting, so the fact that i wrote something about it should be seen as a symptom of me liking it in some way.
I'm aware that it's extremely annoying to have just created something, your little musical children, and then some dickhead on the internet writes some shit about it, when you really want people to praise it. I know that feeling to well!!! But if youre strong, you can use some of that shit, and use it to finetune your work, and feel better about your music in the end.
I should also note, that i've mostly been listening to stuff like Prince, Devo, Oingo Boingo and Pet shop boys lately, so i naturally expect to hear some sort of progression in music.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 14:30 [#02158266]
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Completely out of context, this is a perfect example of how a song should be structured. Ignore the cheesy 90'ies production (if youre not into that). I know youre not making pop music, but you should still consider the methods you can use to get into peoples brains and stay there.
Pet Shop Boys
People can easily hate me for this, but there is a valuable lesson to be learned!
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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:00 [#02158275]
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Well as it turns out my arpeggio effect coupled with the rather 'difficult' sound of the synths itself made it so making a progression was really difficult because any chord change sort of removed the hypnotic effect i was after.
I did however redo the entire ending, and remixed it a bit, I'm still not sure there is any kind of climax but I tried all sorts of pads and melodies on top but they didn't fit.
I'll have to go back to it tomorrow with fresh ears and see what will come up.
In the meantime here's the new version, I need a break for tonight and my ears are tired anyway.
Any tips and feedback appreciated!
LAZY_TITLE
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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:02 [#02158276]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular | Followup to DirtyPriest: #02158266
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yeah i see what you mean, its still rather difficult to retain that feel i want with lots of change.
im not sure..
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 15:03 [#02158278]
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Try mentioning some of the artists that you look up to, and want to sound like (Also being aware, that you want to retain your own original sound)
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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:08 [#02158283]
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it definetly needs a climax at the end, i just cant seem to make one right now ;P
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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:09 [#02158286]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular | Followup to DirtyPriest: #02158278
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im not sure, im not trying to sound like anything ive heard, i like bola, autechre and so forth, especially bola for his nice sounds/melodies
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 15:19 [#02158289]
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OK. Good to hear that. If youre trying to push the envelope by doing something deconstructive, John Cage style, ignore everything i've said. But if youre trying to create a semi-accessible song with a structure, do as i say!
Even when youre trying to do something avant garde, it doesnt hurt to have something nice in it.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:50 [#02158300]
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first off thanks to two who listened and commented! i appreciate everything that has been said.
secondly, i need a small break but im gonna try to create a progression again later tonight, i have listened to everything youve said and it is lacking something in the end there..
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