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offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 12:47 [#02158240]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular



save as

I tried to make it melodic and shit, its a work in progress
until ive gotten some feedback though

thanks=!


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 13:17 [#02158248]
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Writing this, as i'm listening to it for the second time.

The pitched kickdrums are pretty sweet.

I think one thing you should think about, which is difficult
when you make electronic music, is not to simply make a
melody, and then put more and more shit over it, as it
progresses. Theres some obvious melodic progression in your
song, that never comes, and it annoys me. Instead it just
keeps going on and on, untill it stops, and then goes into
something different, that then evolves by putting more and
more layers on top. The second part is less inspiring, and
less "powerfull" than the first bit, wich is a bit weird.

The theme you begin with, maybe it should return in the end.
This is one of the things that make people go "fuck yeah"
and bop their heads.

You must captivate the listener, and listening to the same
stuff over and over again, just doesnt do the trick (for
me).

That said, if what you aim to do, is make repetetive music
that evolves slowly, then ignore the critique.

I wish i had the file, so i could mess around with it, and
show you what i mean.

That said, i like the sounds a lot, and the melody that you
did make, is nice. I'd love to hear what you come with.

Hope this is usefull!



 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-27 13:19 [#02158249]
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first thought: good beat
second thought: slightly awkward beat
third thought: this melody doesnt fit the beat
fourth thought: melody is improving, still not sure it fits
the beat
fifth thought: nice bassline, melodies improving vastly.
sixth thought: everything fits now. sounds pretty
fantastic.
seventh and final thought: great breakdown and wonderful
track overall, even if the beginning could be finetuned.

NICE!


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 13:22 [#02158250]
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yeah you're right, im currently working on making some
progression to it.. thanks for the critique.

the repetition part bugs me too, but i usually need several
revisions before all of it is complete.

thanks though i wasnet fully aware a progression was needed
but upon further listening its clear!



 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-27 13:25 [#02158251]
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there is loads of progression. i think DP means there isnt a
proper climax for it, or a catchy hook that returns after
the break.

i think it's too bad the melodies overtake the beat at a
certain point. there is little left to nod your head to
except hi-hats.

still great.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 13:27 [#02158252]
Points: 5499 Status: Lurker | Followup to cx: #02158250



It's MY humble oppinion. I only bother writing critique to
stuff i find interesting, so the fact that i wrote something
about it should be seen as a symptom of me liking it in some
way.

I'm aware that it's extremely annoying to have just created
something, your little musical children, and then some
dickhead on the internet writes some shit about it, when you
really want people to praise it. I know that feeling to
well!!! But if youre strong, you can use some of that shit,
and use it to finetune your work, and feel better about your
music in the end.

I should also note, that i've mostly been listening to stuff
like Prince, Devo, Oingo Boingo and Pet shop boys lately, so
i naturally expect to hear some sort of progression in
music.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 14:30 [#02158266]
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Completely out of context, this is a perfect example of how
a song should be structured. Ignore the cheesy 90'ies
production (if youre not into that). I know youre not making
pop music, but you should still consider the methods you can
use to get into peoples brains and stay there.

Pet Shop Boys

People can easily hate me for this, but there is a valuable
lesson to be learned!


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:00 [#02158275]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular



Well as it turns out my arpeggio effect coupled with the
rather 'difficult' sound of the synths itself made it so
making a progression was really difficult because any chord
change sort of removed the hypnotic effect i was after.

I did however redo the entire ending, and remixed it a bit,
I'm still not sure there is any kind of climax but I tried
all sorts of pads and melodies on top but they didn't fit.

I'll have to go back to it tomorrow with fresh ears and see
what will come up.

In the meantime here's the new version, I need a break for
tonight and my ears are tired anyway.

Any tips and feedback appreciated!

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:02 [#02158276]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular | Followup to DirtyPriest: #02158266



yeah i see what you mean, its still rather difficult to
retain that feel i want with lots of change.

im not sure..


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 15:03 [#02158278]
Points: 5499 Status: Lurker | Followup to cx: #02158276



Try mentioning some of the artists that you look up to, and
want to sound like (Also being aware, that you want to
retain your own original sound)


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:08 [#02158283]
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it definetly needs a climax at the end, i just cant seem to
make one right now ;P


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:09 [#02158286]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular | Followup to DirtyPriest: #02158278



im not sure, im not trying to sound like anything ive heard,
i like bola, autechre and so forth, especially bola for his
nice sounds/melodies


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-27 15:19 [#02158289]
Points: 5499 Status: Lurker



OK. Good to hear that. If youre trying to push the envelope
by doing something deconstructive, John Cage style, ignore
everything i've said. But if youre trying to create a
semi-accessible song with a structure, do as i say!

Even when youre trying to do something avant garde, it
doesnt hurt to have something nice in it.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-12-27 15:50 [#02158300]
Points: 4537 Status: Regular



first off thanks to two who listened and commented! i
appreciate everything that has been said.

secondly, i need a small break but im gonna try to create a
progression again later tonight, i have listened to
everything youve said and it is lacking something in the end
there..



 


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