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offline stilaktive from a place on 2007-12-07 04:54 [#02151601]
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Did a little searchy and dinni find nout.

Anway I'm planning on getting one of these little things
soon. I'm thinking of using it just for basic ableton djing
i.e. not too much dsp. reports on games and apps include top
notch QIII arena and Photoshop cs3. thats sounds good and
along with overclocking it and sticking 2 gigs of ram i
think it should handle it. Cant seem to find any audio
benchmarks yet though. any clues? anyone got one for that
matter?


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-12-07 04:59 [#02151605]
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I WANT THIS. It is perfect for my homework. Not to be all I
LIKE OLD COMPUTERS but I really dont like my modern time
wasting computer. So to have something I can check my email,
fold up and throw in my bookbag would really kick ass.

Think it the compact flash will be to slow ?



 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2007-12-07 09:42 [#02151680]
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Yeah, I've had one since release day.

They are...... (wait for it).... AWESOME!

I literally just chuck it in my bag every day and use it at
uni for checking email, writing essays, searching the
library etc.

(and it's not compact flash. it's secure digital/mmc.)

ask me any questions..

http://pidg.in/~taras/loleee.jpg



 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2007-12-07 09:45 [#02151681]
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(I don't use it for music stuff though. I'm still using
Linux on it - the hard drive is solid state/flash, i.e. it
will wear out a lot quicker if you don't use the right kind
of file system or the OS does a lot of writing - like XP
does.)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-12-07 11:31 [#02151709]
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this is taken from that link you posted:

In related news, PC World laments that the Asus Eee PC
“gets toasty warm during use. And I don’t mean warm just
near the battery–it gets warm all over. The palm rest, the
keyboard, the touchpad, and the touchpad’s single select
button all felt warm to the touch after just 30 minutes of
use. Even the USB drive I plugged into the USB port became
warm. The heat only got worse with time and further use.
Another issue: My test unit often emitted a low-pitched
whirring and grinding noise. While no worse than a hard
drive spinning up, considering this unit lacks a hard drive,
the noise was disquieting. It was obvious in a quiet room
(with only a desktop PCs own low-grade cacophony as
background noise), and it was annoying to hear. Not to
mention that the noise made me uneasy; I couldn’t help but
wonder which component was the source.”

definitely something to keep in mind for those of you
considering a purchase.


 

offline avart from nomo' on 2007-12-07 11:43 [#02151716]
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...not surprising, small computers gets really hot - nothing
to worry about if you just browse the net a bit and write
some stuff sometimes - but they're not made for extended
sessions (=lots of heat and fan noise)

overclocking seems like a very bad idea!

(my kitchentable-sized alu PB17" is quite big, but quiet as
a mouse)



 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2007-12-07 12:41 [#02151757]
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yes, the "whirring" sound is the fan turning on, which it
does after about 40 mins of use. I believe fans are quite
commonplace in microcomputers these days.


 

offline avart from nomo' on 2007-12-07 13:00 [#02151772]
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yep, fans are all around - but of different size and rpm's
(my former PB12" 3000-8000 rpm fan were quite loud, PB17's
two fans are almost always off and doesn't sound much at
4000 rpm...)


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 01:17 [#02151946]
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I have one, don't buy one for music stuff it's totally
inappropriate. It's a fantastic machine for browsing the
net. I'd recommend a 4GB SD card to go with it.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 01:21 [#02151950]
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solid state is very different to flash memory, flash memory
would wear out fast if it has to cope with and OS's writes
etc. Solid state has similar longevity to standard hard
drives.




 

offline sneakattack on 2007-12-08 02:11 [#02151955]
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no


 

offline b6662966 from ? on 2007-12-08 02:11 [#02151956]
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399$ dollars for 4 gigs of space and 512mb of ram, that
coupled with a last generation cpu, running a specially
customized version of linux for tards?

for that same price (or cheaper in some cases) you can get
14/15 inch laptop, with atleast a duo core processor,
atleast 1 gig of ram, 100 gigs of space and a licensed copy
of windows.

i dont undertand the appeal of this, other than its slightly
smaller than your basic laptop.


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-12-08 02:17 [#02151957]
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that's essentially it. But to understand the appeal better,
compare the price to other small laptops.


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2007-12-08 07:09 [#02151992]
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b6662966, the appeal is that you get a fully functional PC
the size and weight of a small book.


 

offline cronenburger from Ireland on 2007-12-08 07:14 [#02151993]
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why would you want to use photoshop on such a small screen


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 09:12 [#02152017]
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Reliability

In terms of reliability, conventional HDDs pale when
compared to SSDs. The absence of mechanical arms and
spinning platters is the reason behind its reliability. In
demanding environments, SSDs provide the type of ruggedness
required for mobile applications. Unlike the HDD, SSD's can
withstand extreme shock and vibration with data integrity
and without any danger of data loss. This feature is very
important in industrial applications where exposure to
highly combustible materials and electromagnetic radiation
are typical. Their ability to deliver unnerving performance
in extreme conditions also makes SSD play a vital role in
military operations, be it in defense, aerospace or aviation
applications. Military applications require, in most cases,
an operating temperature range of -60°C to +95°C. Shock,
vibration, and temperature ratings of HDDs cannot comply
with military standards, only SSDs can.


not my words


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 09:21 [#02152018]
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I think people are missing the point. It's just a small,
light, reliable, cheap and fast (to load) laptop. It's not a
graphic design or recording studio. It's not meant to be
compared to the £400 tesco special laptops either.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-12-08 09:51 [#02152020]
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It's a nice idea. What I want is a very compact "book" sized
qwerty laptop with a passive screen.
Something like a modern day TRS80-model 100 LAZY_TITLE

I don't want a flash GUI, or anything fancy. Just the
ability to run off batteries without charging for a few days
and a few simple programs, simple web browser, email, text
editing, Couple of USB ports. wifi would be nice, but
probably a battery killer.

Make the screen a monochrome LCD, which can work without
backlight (backlight consumes tons of power) backlight only
needs to be turned on for nighttime use.

Keep the solid state memory as compact flash (or similar),
which can be removed and upgraded as required.

Add a tiny headphone jack and maybe lineout.
Use lithium polymer batteries for high charge density and
very light weight.
Stick a very stripped down basic linux or similar on it. Not
awful windows CE.

It should have a solar panel mounted behind the screen so it
can keep itself charged on sunny days. (N.B. no laptops
utilise the area behind the screen), i.e. the opposite side
of the lid to the screen. Cover it in a layer of perspex or
something to stop damage.

Have a low power slowish ARM embedded CPU and no fan. No
parts of it should get hot. (If it does, the CPU is over
specified for the job).

Ideal for mostly text based applications. I would buy one.
It should be very light and rugged.
My P1i smartphone has a fully featured spreadsheet and
wordprocessor on it, so I don't see why it can't be done for
a TRS-80 clone for the 21st century?

I see a market not for a laptop "lite", but rather a rocket
powered filofax/ebook with internet and mostly text centric
applications.
Of course I'm probably totally wrong!



 

offline sneakattack on 2007-12-08 10:06 [#02152022]
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I was correcting your statement "very different to[sic]
flash memory".


 

offline sneakattack on 2007-12-08 10:08 [#02152023]
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I like the idea of it. I've had a very expensive tiny
laptop for years, and I don't ever use it for anything
complicated. If I need heavy processing power, I can
offload it elsewhere, as long as I'm connected.


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2007-12-08 11:29 [#02152054]
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dave_g - I think this is the plan with the massive failure
that is tablet PCs.


 

offline oyvinto on 2007-12-08 14:16 [#02152127]
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useless crap me thinks. 7" screens? but it's nice if you're
in africa.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-12-09 10:44 [#02152526]
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what're your describing has pretty much already been made
(except obviously no USB ports)

Psion Series 5mx

and

Psion netBook

the Series 5mx is a very very small form factor (a lot
smaller than that VHS cassette) and has a 16 shade greyscale
screen (with EL backlighting). runs off two AA batteries and
goes for weeks and weeks without changing the batteries.

the netBook is a slightly bigger machine, that has a larger
colour backlit screen.

both are running ARM CPUs and run EPOC 5 operating system
(EPOC was the precursor to Symbian, which your P1i runs,
along with pretty much any smartphone that Nokia and Sony
Ericsson make) so you wouldn't have any troubles getting to
grips with paradigms in the usage of the operating system

and you can get the Series 5mx pretty easily on eBay. the
netBook is a bit more difficult, as those who have them are
reluctant to let them go.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-12-09 10:46 [#02152527]
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what're your = what you're

yay for tiredness


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2007-12-09 11:20 [#02152528]
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this is nothing like either... trust me, i had a 5mx back in
the day. it's a real life pc. you can even install macos on
it if you're a cunt.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-12-09 12:13 [#02152536]
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i never said that the Eee PC was like the Psions

i was saying that the Psions fit what dave_g was describing

reread my post :)


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-12-09 13:24 [#02152560]
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yes I had a psion in the back of my mind when I wrote it,
but I wouldn't want a symbian style OS. I'd much prefer a
unix and of course USB and some form of low power wireless
(and don't say IrDA is wireless), removable flash memory and
don't forget solar power too!

If you can spruce up a psion then you have my dream product
pretty much. Like I said a sort of filofax/ebook rather than
pocketPC.

Incidentally, you might be interested in this article from a
couple of months ago about psion. Did you know that they
developed the first sat nav and hard disk mp3 players but
didn't bother to develop them, so their people left to
develop the tomtom and ipod! It's a typically British
story...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/26/psion_special/


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-12-09 13:49 [#02152570]
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Well you can get the Psions to run Linux (i have a Series
5mxPRO...the 32MB version but haven't bothered trying Linux
yet) but i guess that's still not what you're after.

yeah, they were VERY close to releasing a modern Psion that
ran a version of Linux (similar to how the netBook Pro was
Psion hardware, but Windows CE) but it never came to be.

i didn't realise that about TomTom / iPod development, nice
one :D

i'd still love to have a 64MB netBook though :p however it
would surely get neglected and sit around gathering dust
just like my Psion Series 5mxPRO is right now


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-14 05:11 [#02154042]
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How about one of those new Nokia Internet tablets?...v nice
spec...and as Open as anything else out, linux wise...

The new ones have even got GPS...


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-12-14 11:46 [#02154150]
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I want one, and I bet I can run a tracker on it to. I'll
show you allll !


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2007-12-14 11:56 [#02154153]
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anyone think richard has a MAcbook? i had a dream last night
that he thought i was spoiled cause i have one that my mom
got me


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2007-12-14 12:09 [#02154155]
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the last pictures i saw of him doing anything live showed
him with a Vaio

but i dunno


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-04-14 15:30 [#02194278]
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I'm currently ziltying on an Eee, and I had thought that the
kEeeys would Bee too small for my manhands, butt they really
aren't bad. My one complaint is that the speakers occupy
space that could have been put to better use increasing the
size of the screen. Though, I suppose there's no room for
the speakers elsewhere.

On the other hand...

I noticed that the Eee has thrEee USBee ports on it, and
thought it would be funNee to connect a bunch of USB audio
devices/synths and mess around on the crapPee speeekers. Has
anyone here tried using it with any linux-based trackers or
anything? Are there any?

Although I probably wouldn't be able to work on this thing
for an extended period of time (my eyes are straining to
read the screen as it is), it's still pretty cool all
things conidered.


 

offline pidgin from St Kilda on 2008-04-14 15:42 [#02194283]
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yeah as i said before i don't use mine for music, but i have
tried out Aldrin modular synth/tracker (an open Buzz clone)
and it works well enough.


 


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