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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-12-03 03:25 [#02150042]
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Seems to me he's never dropped an autechre tune
.. but loads of ceephax, squarepusher, vibert etc
Or am i wrong?
No big deal, just wondering....
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-12-03 03:51 [#02150047]
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I've always been interested in the Aphex/Autechre dynamic also. I know AE like Richard... they called him "wicked" in an interview at one point.
And if memory serves me correctly AFX also said that he really liked Draft when it came out... not sure on that one though.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-12-03 03:55 [#02150049]
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(not that that answers your question in any way.)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 03:55 [#02150050]
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what is autechre most danceable song in your opinion?
it's different dance music to what he likes to spin, though maybe he could play one of their ambient pieces for an intro if he really wanted to haha
i think richard said he liked confield..
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-12-03 03:59 [#02150053]
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Arch Carrier is pretty danceable...
Dial (always), Rae, Inhake2, Latent Quarter, Eutow also come to mind
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 04:02 [#02150054]
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right, i bet he could include some of those in his sets..and cause some heart attacks : )
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-12-03 04:04 [#02150055]
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all of their live stuff is danceable... i mean you could start with "second bad vible". Glasgow 2005 live is incrdibly dancy
sure autechre is different to the breakbeat/jungle rdj usually plays but tons of their stuff would suit a rdj set.
but not one single track.............. ever?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 04:20 [#02150059]
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it is danceable in a sort of slow-moving-nodding-your-head way which is quite different to what rdj likes to play as you say.. i like ae live but it can't be really compared to dance music richard plays, it's two completly different things..
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-12-03 04:30 [#02150060]
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generally rdj sets generally start off hiphoppy, go breakbeaty melodic, and then hit the jungle and gabba region. Autechre would fiit very nicely into the start of most RDJ sets when he's just building things up....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 04:39 [#02150062]
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isn't that what i said? : ) he could sure include some of the tunes in this sets..with his skill he could probably make them work in the gabba section too hehe, but maybe it would be a too obvious thing if he played songs by his superstar friends...did he ever play vibert's or squarepusher's tunes?
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Raspberry
from Iran on 2007-12-03 07:07 [#02150095]
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Richard James is a sneaky, arrogant cock. He only plays out tracks by his manufactured clique of bumlickers on
Rephlex, because he wants you to believe that he and his sycophantic puppies are the only people making electronic
music. Which is funny when you remember that the last truly interesting thing he ever released was Selected Ambient Works
II back in 1994. That's nearly fourteen years ago. Everything he has released since then has been disposable leftover tracks, released due to contractual obligations.
He lost his spark after SAWII and it's never returned. Can you truly say that any of his post-1994 material has
influenced ANYBODY in the world of music? He was over, a long time ago, but he still maintains an entirely manufactured "royal court" of arrogant
back-slapping cunts, with a collection of similarly overrated artists like Squarepusher, Vibert, Cylob etc, and
Paradinas as the gangly court jester, lapping at Richard's eggy straggling ginger arse-juices with his fawning
bespectacled drooping blubberlip face. Paradinas is a particularly humourless, superior tosser in person.
None of these smug wankers have made a single significant tune in the whole of their pointless careers.
The emperor's stinky old 90's clique!
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staz
on 2007-12-03 07:14 [#02150096]
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post of the year.
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-12-03 07:16 [#02150097]
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Fav+
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-03 07:16 [#02150098]
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ouch. nice one.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 07:17 [#02150099]
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"Can you truly say that any of his post-1994 material has
influenced ANYBODY in the world of music? "
don't you remember what happened when analord was released? suddenly acid was again all people listened to..and producers got back to..it's always been like that. he puts out music and the next day everyone is doing what he does. im not surprised if he's annoyed by this..
it seems to me you're bitter over something : )
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staz
on 2007-12-03 07:20 [#02150100]
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Rasp Berry.
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Raspberry
from Iran on 2007-12-03 07:20 [#02150101]
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bahahaha that's a lot of crap, sorry
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 07:22 [#02150102]
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can you pretty please give an example of influential electronica from the mid 90's on? or just music you listen to..
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-03 07:27 [#02150103]
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it's that 20 year rule thang i think. not rdj bringing acid back. for example, the kids of the 80s influened by 60s... 90's > 70s ...'87>'07 etc. etc.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-03 07:29 [#02150105]
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don't be ridiculous.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 07:29 [#02150106]
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right, it just so happend he put out acid exactly 20 years after it initially came out..
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-12-03 07:30 [#02150108]
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IS afx over-rated? I'm the only person i know outside the web who's is into his music. The net gives a false reading of whats popular/real methinks. As for being influencial....i don't think he is these days at all and it doesn't matter to me.. i'll still lsten to "live at tornio", "Ogden Theatre" "Primavera sound" etc and still get blown away. Just suprised a little ae ain't got in.
I think raspberrys blowing a few.... fruit for thought though
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-12-03 07:30 [#02150109]
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don't you remember what happened when analord was released? suddenly acid was again all people listened to..and
producers got back to..
Haha, I'm sure you're saying that tongue in cheek. Unless by "everybody" you mean "a few people on this messageboard" and "producers" as "the superstar bedroom musicians from the class of WATMM Vol. 1"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 07:34 [#02150115]
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well, i meant people from the electronica music scene obviously..analogue gear is what people got back to eventhough most of them were using software before...but it was the same with drukqs really..he always starts something 'new' when he releases an album
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staz
on 2007-12-03 07:50 [#02150122]
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i hate the 'hardware' cult that's risen lately, it's lame and sad. i also hate the 'aciiieeed' culture. i'm pretty hateful. i'm not so sure analord conjured up the acid wave, but i think it had something to do with the hardware fetishist wank that you see today, where most people can't even be bothered to learn the dynamics of their freshly bought, overpriced piece of gear.
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staz
on 2007-12-03 07:52 [#02150124]
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that is to say i have nothing at all against hardware or anything, it's just the mentality of "if it's made on hardware, it's automatically more legit/authentic/plain GOOD". it's some contorted fanboy shit, but it's still upsetting.
anyway, acid never died! it just became a really stupid crutch for a huge bunch of 'cid barbarians these days.
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Raspberry
from Iran on 2007-12-03 07:55 [#02150125]
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no he doesn't, what a lot of shit
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-12-03 07:57 [#02150127]
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Someone, a musician, commented on one of my bloody awful tracks as "fuzzy analogue goodness"... the only thing analogue I've ever been near is the timer on the oven, and I've certainly never set out to sound "analogue". I think it's all a fucking myth.
I've said it before, but we'll see all this fucking gear going straight back onto eBay as people find out exactly why it was sold off in the first place.
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staz
on 2007-12-03 07:59 [#02150128]
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yes, that is exactly it. "fuzzy analogue goodness". i will now cry.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-12-03 08:02 [#02150132]
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When you've nearly lost faith in XLT, when you think there is no more humour to wring out of this loveless niche of music, along comes
"Paradinas as the gangly court jester, lapping at Richard's
eggy straggling ginger arse-juices with his fawning bespectacled drooping blubberlip face. Paradinas is a particularly humourless, superior tosser in person."
Poetry, it really is. I can't wait to use all this for my chapter on "the IDM years" in my semi-factual historical novel "The Rise and Fall of Ambient Techno"
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-12-03 08:03 [#02150133]
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RDJ went back to analogue synths because he couldn't resist all the distractions (porn, YouTube, anonymoys IDM message board surfing) while using computers.
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Raspberry
from Iran on 2007-12-03 08:12 [#02150136]
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there's more where that came from
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2007-12-03 08:15 [#02150137]
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you listen... you like
you listen.... you don't like
seems like its all digital to me
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-12-03 08:20 [#02150139]
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who does?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2007-12-03 08:24 [#02150140]
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I'm a cock
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2007-12-03 08:29 [#02150141]
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awesome...
IDM! IDM! IDM!
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yellow head
on 2007-12-03 08:39 [#02150143]
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give us more, PLEASE.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2007-12-03 08:41 [#02150144]
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Sclah how do YOU KNOW that, only god knows of his porn visits
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yellow head
on 2007-12-03 08:41 [#02150145]
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'The Rise and Fall of Ambient Techno' I'd buy it
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-12-03 08:54 [#02150152]
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I hope you will. I am planning to do basically something like what "24 Hour Party People" did for Manchester and Factory Records, I'm hoping to cover from 1990 up to today the history of "awkward dance music". So I'd have Ae played by Vini Jones and David Duchovney, whilst the lads themselves give a a four hour in depth interview into "what does the word Autechre.... really mean?"
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-12-03 09:04 [#02150160]
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Can I play Cylob?
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-12-03 09:11 [#02150166]
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I had Roy Kinnear penciled in but seeing as he sadly died about twenty years ago, then yes.
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epic chod
on 2007-12-03 09:16 [#02150167]
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bloody hell dont leave any scraps haha
i agrees with mosts of that except i think its slightly innacurates as he doesnt have anywhere nears as many friends anymores
thats how comes hes on heres tryin to be frends wiv u lots
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2007-12-03 09:16 [#02150168]
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I definetly think you should think about casting brian blessed he is fat and jolly and has a beard and many idm artists also have beards.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2007-12-03 11:13 [#02150213]
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idm2 is hier
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-12-03 11:23 [#02150215]
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Heir today, gone tomorrow.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-03 11:38 [#02150224]
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Acid is so boring. I've never understood the appeal, though Analord was rather nice. When Vibert starts going all acid in his sets the brain melts and seeks another room to enter.
I think lots of people like hardware because it's more fun to use than computers. The Nord Lead 3 has sexy LEDs on every KNOB and it's red and fun to play.
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2007-12-03 11:43 [#02150229]
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BAD acid is boring. The shit acid dilutes the few outstanding tracks, a bit like dubstep (but there's definitely a lot more good acid than good dubstep).
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-03 11:50 [#02150230]
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Could you recommend some good acid? I actually heard one acid song I really liked in a set, but the memory is hazy. I think that YosePH Vibert album has some good moments, too. But most acid I've tried squelches along like a weak, floppy, over-looped sausage.
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pidgin
from St Kilda on 2007-12-03 11:55 [#02150231]
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how about 2 Remixes by AFX (lawl!)
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