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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 11:57 [#02146480]
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hi, I just recorded a piano improvisation, which I'm uploading here... please listen and let me know what you think!
tha ks!
ZeBox Page.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-11-21 12:08 [#02146482]
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First part isn't my thing, but towards the end when it turns into "classical" classical, it's great: Nothing too much, just simple, but effective, scales or whatever!
Also, is that your computer making all those little clicks? They're good!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 12:30 [#02146486]
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I think the clicks are me hitting the piano keys :D
I've been practising Bach preludes, fugues, and inventions, with the intention of recording some of them---it's easy to play a piece competently and well, but it's well hard to play it flawlessly (especially Bach!), which is required when recording
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-21 12:41 [#02146489]
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This sounds like ass, like an amateur mashing randomish keys. GOOD JOB!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-11-21 13:03 [#02146502]
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It might just be the recording but it sounds like you're hitting the keys way too hard all the time. Maybe you were angry at something, in which case good job.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 13:08 [#02146507]
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It was highly impassioned playing :J
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It_is_a_beaver_
from Happy Land! (United States) on 2007-11-21 14:14 [#02146539]
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Sausage Fingers
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 15:24 [#02146556]
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O.K. so I stopped mucking about and recorded a 2-part invention by J.S. Bach--I'm not entirely happy with it (of course), but I didn't want to be playing it over and over all night.
b.a.c.h.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-21 15:55 [#02146566]
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G(Ox2)D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-11-21 17:05 [#02146580]
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I remixed it. Hope you don't mind.
My favourite things.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-11-21 17:09 [#02146581]
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clearly some mario galaxy inspired tunes in there. brilliant stuff.
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freqy
on 2007-11-21 17:19 [#02146587]
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theres defo some comedy moments in there. could almost see chapin, laurel n hardy dancing in dresses and jumping down staircases...oh wait i can .!!!! lovely.... oooh now thats nice.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 17:22 [#02146590]
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It's funny, I was hoping someone would tamper with it... this isn't what I'd imagined, but it's awesome :D Also, I love that song anyway.. and have the sheet music for it ;J
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freqy
on 2007-11-21 17:23 [#02146591]
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the visuals are awesome, inspired by the great frequencies delivered by this improvisation.
i thank you for this moment.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 17:28 [#02146592]
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You're very welcome, freqy :p
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portal13
from United Kingdom on 2007-11-21 17:34 [#02146595]
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LOL that remix is awesome.
Haven't composed anything worthwhile on the piano in a while.
nice one on the improvising.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 17:37 [#02146597]
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Thanks--it wasn't a serious improvisation (obviously!)... I was just mucking about :D
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-21 18:15 [#02146610]
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lovely
Man, jesus christ, you should have smelled these farts I've been laying. That's what happens when you don't eat anything for two days, then suddenly eat a half bag of chips and 8 granola bars. Usually farts smell brown, but these smelled a poisonous pungent grey. Smelled like dead bodies and maggots. I can fart in a ziplock bag and send it to someone if they want to smell.
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rad smiles
on 2007-11-21 18:23 [#02146612]
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please do!
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freqy
on 2007-11-21 19:03 [#02146621]
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im still listening to this masterpiece.
it takes me everywhere. its funny , sad ... angry , unsure, most positive. , deep and rather wonderful....black and white, yet in colour.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-21 20:47 [#02146641]
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coolioso :D I recorded the ImProV kneeling in front of the piano because the laptop was on the piano stool: that's why some of the fingering is a little bit awKwArd.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-11-22 04:09 [#02146689]
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Haha, yeah, that's where I found the lyrics.. I just saw the sheets lying in front of me, and started singing it.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-11-22 09:34 [#02146757]
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Downloading currently. I shall give some comment as soon as i can.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-22 18:17 [#02146968]
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I felt the same way as Drunken... the first half-or-so of the track isn't really to my liking, though perhaps it would grow on me with repeated exposure. There just wasn't anything in the first half of this crazy improv that really moved me upon my initial listen. (After reading your comments, I think perhaps it wasn't supposed to.) Once it changes into your "experiment" with scales, however, it's actually quite beautiful. How long have you been practicing/playing piano, marlowe?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-22 18:24 [#02146971]
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I've been playing since I was about thirteen. It's funny, because I stopped playing soon after it settled into the arpeggios (It was mainly just D minor moving up to F major a couple of times, then descending to B-flat+7 descending downwards to G minor, then back to the D minor arpeggio) because I thought the fun had gone out of it :]
Be sure to listen to the Bach Invention on the same page! My aim is to record a full set of either his 2-part inventions, or his little preludes, and build up to some of the "preludes & fugues" from the 48... there are a few that I can play fine already, but I'd rather practice more to nail them lucidly (that Bach recording is obviously not good enough to be included in my planned "proper" recording). It's so much easier to play the piano without the knowledge that you're recording yourself--I'm one of those people who just grin inanely if a video camera is pointed at me, or else resort to swearing :D
thanks for having an earful though, sorry for the long-winded reply :]
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-22 18:33 [#02146977]
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I actually did have a listen to that b.a.c.h piece that you recorded, and it was really great. To be honest, I didn't even notice any flaws in that one, though when I play for people they usually can't tell when I screw up, so I guess the player is always the most aware of his own mistakes.
"It's so much easier to play the piano without the knowledge that you're recording yourself"
Goodness, is this ever the truth. There've been times where I've started writing/playing a piece that, by all rights, should have been out of my league, but by some fluke of dexterity and concentration, I manage to pull it off. (odd time signiatures, complex arpeggios, etc). Unfortunately, the moment I attempt to show someone else, or record what I've been doing, I can't play it worth a damn.
No need to appologise for a long-winded reply, by the way. I'd rather read everything you have to say than a quick "thanks for listening" post. :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-22 18:41 [#02146982]
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Aww, thanks. The joy of the piano is that sometimes you really hit a transcendental peak where you are playing perfectly: the rhythm, the clarity of tone, the expression, and you are almost detached from yourself playing, glowing with a mix of amazement, joy in both your playing & the actual written music, and a buoyant acceptance of it... it is those times, being utterly relaxed and all-encompassed, that make up for the times when your fingers won't operate, you get flustered and hit the wrong keys at the wrong time, and take bites out of the sheet music.
It's a truly wonderful feeling, and from what I've read, it's a proper "spiritual" peak experience.
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freqy
on 2007-11-22 18:54 [#02146989]
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i recommend you try out a high quality vibe and a harp for your midi keyboard if you haven't already.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-22 19:10 [#02146997]
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My uncle had an electric piano with a nice bassy vibes setting on it.. I enjoyed playing it.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-22 19:13 [#02146998]
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Yeah, that is very true. Also true is that when you improvise with another comptetent musician, you easily stumble across great little ideas and things flow nicely and the piece seems to structure itself. Then, we you've both agreed that what's going on is worthwhile so you go press "record", neither can pull off anything as interesting as what went before. Well, that often happens anyway...
(sorry for my dreadful writing.)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-22 19:16 [#02147000]
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It's a damn big psychological wall which needs demolished. My plan is to just press RECORD on my laptop and play over and over.. that's what I did with the Bach piece. Only problem, eventually the concentration goes completely... just before that 'final take' I wasn't even able to focus on the music and couldn't get past the first bar!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-22 19:30 [#02147004]
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Your passion makes me want to go back to learning classical music again. :-) I have a friend who is at Glasgow doing piano and vocal studies, and he describes similarly intense spiritual experiences when practising Bach preludes and fugues, even playing them for a final time after 6-hour sessions. I never quite experienced that, at this point in life I'll be able to find similarly deep and satisfying experiences in the performance of other composers' great music, rather than an impatience to just improvise instead. :-)
About the recording thing: The times when I've began improvising with one musician and others have been present and secretly pressed record have yielded rather nice results. You could just get a massive external hardrive for your laptop and leave it recording all day, I suppose, and when you sit down to play half way through the day after some port/water/bread/wine you'd have forgotten it's recording and will capture some inspired, inhibited Back playing.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-22 19:31 [#02147006]
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*even after playing them
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freqy
on 2007-11-22 20:15 [#02147015]
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check out kontakt ochestra for vibes and harps .rain piano and akoustik piano for high detailed piano samples, 6gigs i think for 24bit less for 16bit multiple velocity sampled for each key even has the friction sounds of the piano pedals as you press the sustain(pedal) I like character of the 'rain piano' sounds more intriguing to me. been a while tho since i heard them , but they are very impressive,
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-24 19:55 [#02147486]
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"The joy of the piano is that sometimes you really hit a transcendental peak where you are playing perfectly: the rhythm, the clarity of tone, the expression, and you are almost detached from yourself playing..."
I know and love that feeling... I've even managed, at times, to play the piano for so long that, by the time I've stopped, I can't remember the last 15-or-so-minutes of playing. It's very intriguing to ponder the notion of being able to continue playing while the mind wanders. I think it would be an interesting experiment to simply press record and play for as long as it takes to reach that "meditative" state, and then go back and listen to what my body was creating without my mind being fully aware of it.
CS2x said: "The times when I've began improvising with one musician and others have been present and secretly pressed record have yielded rather nice results."
Hah! It's funny you mention this, because this is almost solely how my friend Lucas and I recorded our musical "side project." I quote side project not because we had more important musical endeavors at the time, but rather because neither of us took it very seriously. Even when you don't feel pressured at all, it can still be nerve-racking to try to play when you know you're being recorded. We continuously told each other to "just play it a few times to practice" and then secretly hit record. The results spoke for themselves.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-11-25 12:54 [#02147681]
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"Your passion makes me want to go back to learning classical music again."
I was thinking the same thing... Marlowe's zeal has a rather infectious quality. His attitude causes me to consider practicing the classics more. Maybe I'll dust off my old books and give Chopin another try. :)
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-11-26 08:28 [#02147937]
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I think i have achieved the same meditative a few times whilst playing shows. It usually happens that i remember the first few bars of the first song and then sometime later walking of the stage. It leaves me very high, naturally. It's a great feeling.
Ok, to the piece. I again think the latter half was the best bit. I was waiting for something which never came though. It would have been interesting if it had. I am going to download the Bach piece now. I shall report back again soon on that. Although, i am not sure of what worth my opinion will be. I don't know a lot about classical stuff.
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