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U2... Rattle & Hum Duran Duran ... Arena Grinning Ape ... De regreso en vivo What do those three recordings have in common? They all say they're "live", but they're not, they're a bit live, and then substantially fiddled about with in the studio. U2 and Duran Duran can get away with it because they've got the audience willing to whoop and cheer. I, on the other hand, never leave the house. So I played "live" to myself, and to the fleeting interest of Mr Pickles, and then put the bits together to make - coming atcha direct from Barrio Asturias. If anyone wants to book this astonishing show, that only last 15 minutes, though can be strung out to 25 with feedback interludes, let me know. I didn't think I'd done any music for ages, but I found I had about 20 scraps laying about that when subjected to A Fuck Load of Reverb, took on new life. I'm keen to play live but I don't want any bods coming up to me peering at the laptop and asking what I'm doing with just Winamp on shuffle. I just want to have the laptop plugged into a loud sound system and then to retreat to the bar. Is that possible, promoters? |
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New APE! Fucking great. Now I will listen. |
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Downlording. Already Tuss-approved. |
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I will have to listen through "Flamenco Sketches" by Miles Davis first, though. It's rude to skip, especially when you're on the last track. I'm glad the Ape is back. |
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I love you boys. You boys, not boys in general. |
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Love the fake crowd. It conjures up images of walking in to some dank basement illuminated by only a few cheap lasers with the hunched figure of the elusive Grinning Ape in the corner. I like the way you're using the reverb as an integral part of the music. About a quarter of the way in is wicked. In fact from then on it really takes off. Great stuff. Its like a whole night out compacted in to one nicely sized chunk. Sterling work as usual Dan. "I just want to have the laptop plugged into a loud sound system and then to retreat to the bar. Is that possible, promoters?" That's what I do every time I play. |
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Its like a whole night out compacted in to one nicely sized chunk. That's all I wanted, all I ever wanted to do, and little Isexical gets it from the get go, god damn! That's what I do every time I play. Let's team up, I'll be the Andrew Ridgley to your Giorgio Michael. |
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Hahah, this is fantastic. How did you manage to get all that audience noise? The reverb on the music is perfect too, it's all very, very much live. Maybe even more live than a real live show? Very scary. But the music - awesome. I'm still listening, so I'll comment more as it goes. I'm at around 3:40, and that tune is great. A bit nasty in a laid back manner. |
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I don't think I've got the arse for tight denim, but by god I'll give it a shot! |
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Oh man, this is fucking awesome. And those audience cues are hilariously well implemented... Is that the fucking Slayer plug-in? Hahah! |
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I made myself laugh countless times doing the audience "cheers", it was awful, but there you go, I live practically on my own, I am allowed, I hope. And it's all your fault for encouraging me the other day.. yesterday.. whenever it was. |
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Hahah, I'm glad I did, this was awesome! I like how it sort of mellowed out against the end there. and then topping itself off with the noisy "outro" track. I hope this is only the prelude to even greater efforts by the Ape, he needs the spotlight back from all the halfcooked shite that Myspace vomits back at me these days. |
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Similar artists: The Tuss. |
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i woulda been had |
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Listening to this reminded me that music is stupid and I hate myself. I don't understand why you can hear so many people in the background and they're not, like, complaining. An easy way to emulate the first couple of minutes is to record and loop a quick beatbox in a microphone being sure to record a lot of air being blown into it as well, and then add some beeping sounds. Why anyone would want to do this though is more beyond me than I can imagine. The second bunch of sound kinda passed along like skunk roadkill in my peripheral vision while I was writing the text above. Now I'm listening to that aural headache in the middle. WTF, why did everyone cheer? This guitarish fast note thing in the middle is the best thing so far relative to the rest. Ha ha ha ha, everyone clapped- Are you performing for patients a hospital for mental retardation or something? Now there's like this drum shit happening. Its like these retarded bits of replicating information latch onto others in my brain and pull them out into my consciousness. I'm seeing ads for mcdonalds and becomming debt free, pizza coupons, etc. I checked my pulse when it ended (unfortunately I was still 'alive') All in all it was a negative experience like getting kicked, without any of the benefits of being completely killed, and I'm not glad I listened. |
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You're not my demographic, love. |
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I keep meaning to send you this book in spanish I have, well one of them, but I realise it was about 100 years since you sent me that christmas card and you probably don't live at that address anymore. |
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i found this thread just in time before leaving for work, i'll manage to put the file into my phone and listen to it during the day, walking in the sun around the city. the thanks for sharing. |
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likes it, where are grinning ape playing next? |
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haha, the crowd noises are brilliant. their approval of practically every tune you bring out is hilarious. this is good stuff :D |
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This is superb. I would definately have believed this was live, perhaps at a "laptop deathmatch". The way the crowd behaves is very realistic. It reminds me of those BoC "Live at the Lighthouse" recordings, albeit without the tosser shouting, "This is madness!" then laughing like a girl. Of course, the fact you have faked this so well calls into question the authenticity of BoC at the lighthouse... "I just want to have the laptop plugged into a loud sound system and then to retreat to the bar. Is that possible, promoters?" It is indeed. I've done that on 2 occassions. Once when DJing I even set up a half hour mix in advance, then went off into another building, found a machine with internet access and posted about it on Zilty. |
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whoa |
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That's exactly the sort of gig I want to play. I remember 3D of Massive Attack saying (and this is back when they were still any good) that he didn't like having to actually do anything when they were playing live, he just liked listening to their own music and drinking a beer. He's got his problems mind, that I shouldn't wish to replicate. I was thinking of some more faux, suspicious "live" recordings, B12's "3ep", The KLF's stadium house tracks, I've got a pretend live Momus album as well, somewhere... I like the idea of people being caught saying daft things like "this is maaaadness" and captured on legendary bootlegs. Maybe people can record themselves saying things like "Shiiiiiiit" or "YOU.... CUNT" or "these beats are crisp", things like that, and I could blend them into the "live" mix, and it'd be like we were all together at a gig. What a wonderful thought. |
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Haha, that is a great fucking idea! I'll record some directed chatter if you need norwenglish crap recorded on a computer mic. On another note, I'd really like to know how exactly you made the crowd sounds fit so well + what kind of reverb treatment you did. |
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Excellent, DO IT! I didn't do anything special to get "the live effect", I think it's just because the tracks are all grubby with distortion and reverb that it's easy to ladle on a background sound of rude people chattering whilst one is pretending to play, and then just drop in whoops and cheers at the relevant points. If it was all clean it would sound like exactly what it is, a lonely man playing to an audience of one easily istracted three year old child, adding samples of an audience to create the illusion that anybody on this continent gave a fuck about ME and my ART. But a spooky thing, in this "Live" album idea, I was looking up The Normal for Indexical's thread about electronic covers, and apparently there's a live The Normal album, poorly received at the time, one sided vinyl (vinil, vhanal), , that sounds, reaallly interesting and would serve as an inspiration, even just to think about what it sounds like. |
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They'll start giving much more of a fuck, though, with this new innovation. They'll hear the cheers and think, "Oh, I should enjoy this too!" People, well older people, seeing/hearing other people enjoying stuff makes them enjoy it too. Kids are great because they just react; my dad is feeding 6-year olds Autechre where he teaches and they love it. Try doing the same when they hit 12 - fat chance. Good effect you've got there, anyway. I felt like I was... at a live gig. |
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HAINN HAR KLIPPA HÃ…REEEE!!! |
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ace "recording", i'm looking forward to hearing the next "live show" from you, with more crowd response, taken for example from various other live shows (e.g. sample someone from The Police gig shouting "roooxaaannneee!!" and then play something totally different). - taken from an Isotope 217 album |
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Sounds authentic -- music gets a teensy bit dull. Nice idea though, well executed. |
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Pretty fucking good i think. Good sounds. |
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this is fucking epic |
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send me the book before i forget all of my spanish! but you're right, i don't live there anymore.......................... you can email me (miriamhasan AT gmail) and i will tell you where to mail it, if you really want to (i love to get artifacts in the mail). |
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This music is crap! Complete crap. Why does everybody say they like this crap crap musics! It have very boring sound with weak drums weak bass and stupid peoples noises. |
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Please post some of your music. I am sure it is so much better... |
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Ceri JC I will post some of my music soon, tomorrow, now it is difficult because I cannot export it well but I am getting a mp3 converting program and I will show my music tomorow and put it on myspace. |
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I'm very disappointed you didn't write "It's not even funny!" at the end. Maybe this experience was too appalling even for you and it genuinely wasn't even even funny. Which in turn I find sort of funny. The thing about music today, it's no longer just about the music, it's about questions. With this artless, faux live, reverbed tragedy I'm asking "Does a drum machine (or vst plugin) make a sound in a club if there's no one there to hear it? And then if the club itself doesn't exist, what then?" But you heard, Richard, you heard, whether you liked it or not. And, by all accounts, you didn't like it. |
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yummy stuff |
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"The thing about music today, it's no longer just about the music, it's about questions. With this artless, faux live, reverbed tragedy I'm asking "Does a drum machine (or vst plugin) make a sound in a club if there's no one there to hear it?" I can tell you went to art school... |
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The spanish names did it for me, I couldn't but imagine the typical crowd for a show of those popular romantic singers (not pop) grooving to those beats haha |
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Ha, sorry, it's insufferable isn't it... Art School... oh to go back, I was happy then... happy... maybe I can waste everyone's time and do an MA. Maybe be... a chance to be happy... again. It's not that bad an idea. |
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DO IT. |
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Rimmer: You went to Art School? How did you get in? Lister: The normal, usual way you get in to Art School. I failed me exams and applied. |
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And that is exactly what happened. |
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This is brilliant stuff. Please release it as an afx live bootleg. The "live" processing has really brought this to life, I'm so going to rip off this idea. (along with most zilty denizens I would imagine) The crowd really seem to like it too! |
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i'm d/ling this to listen on my ride tomorrow. |
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If you're going to do a Masters, do it full time and fully immerse yourself once more in the world of public transport, dirty clothes, £1 scummy beer and syphilis. Doing it part time nearly did me in. Oh and don't be surprised when even the final year students seem like teenagers to you. |
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This idea has been done before. But that wasn't Grinning Ape therefore nobody paid attention, well nobody other than the people who slated it. It's OK, a bit of a laugh, but most people are going overboard, which I think Dan realises anyway. |
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I thought people were holding back a bit, I was waiting for the "genius" of the work to filter down and then people would start coming back saying "Just how do you get that muffled bass drum sound?" or "Could you produce my new 'live' album, I'll pay for your flight to Zurich and all the sex you can eat". As a piece of music, you're quite right, it's absolute rubbish. But as a statement, as an empty gesture, as a nihilistic trousers round the ankles, two fingered salute to everything that ever was, as an embarrassing guff akin to a drunken uncle at your party telling "blue" jokes, as a Bad Work of Art, as a rude beacon for the directionless and the lost, as an mp3 for its own sake, as a hazy, imagined vanity piece depicting a parallel past where I was a successful, lauded musical pioneer, and the attendent risible pathos of the actual reality, I think it's peerless. I think it could only be improved if it could pop round the shops and stock up your drinks. |
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Grinning Ape is attitude fusioned with music in a sense that heard/seen/experienced/ingested/digested/caramelized/bandol has rarely been eered. It's a package that works best as a package. |
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Wow, zilty auto-format sucks cock. I'm too lazy to type that giwajwe+gj+0w3gj0+aq3gjaw3g3yhwahwbawdbawebawebawjaw3jaw4jh up properly, so I'll just awhjwrjawjawjawjej |
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