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Erica Bella is pretty fly :) It nothing wrong with porn if no one gets hurt. Porn, Porn POrn what a funny name porn is. |
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aron youre not old enough to look at porn yet ; - ] |
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Porn is made by men, for men. Porn is bad. Women are degraded in porn. Women are abused (don't say "they choose to be"). Women are sodomised, pissed on, shit on, raped and made to commit degrading acts... all for you. |
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Dingleberry: Nice analogy about Lindsey Dawn Mckenzie and council estate tart. :) |
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Porn is actually more exploitative of men. They pay *for* it whilst women get paid for doing it (excuse the pun). Who's worse, a prostitute or her client? I'd say the prostitute. Mind you I would say a pimp is worse than a prostitute... |
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Ceri what would you do if your mum or sister were in a porn film, getting buggered? You wouldn't like it would you? What if you saw them walking the streets? No? Think about why. Becaue we are living in a society where men occupy the highest paid jobs and dominate the highest paid industries women are forced to become economically dependent on men. When they can't work, many are forced into prostitution etc. You come across as a total misogynisitc arsehole. |
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Oh yeah, and how can porn be exploitative of men? Men own the companies that make money from the industry. An industry worth more than the film industry and music industry combined (in the US). |
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Strange, it tends to be women ("madames") that own brothels and exploit women. I wasn't defending pornography BTW. Also, and I KNOW you won't even seriously consider this, you'll just call me misogynistic, It is a fact that men are better at the most high paid jobs. I'm sorry, if that sounds non-PC, but men are more driven as it is in their genes to be an "alpha male" to attract more mates and reproduce. In our society being in a high paid job is the equivalent of being a good fighter in a group of primates. Most women don't have such a "drive" and don't work as hard. If society was truly capitalist (which you seem to think it is), wouldn't an employer be totally free of any prejudice (race, gender etc.)? They would select the person that did the job best. It's also true that past a certain level in management women become less efficient than men as they are too obssesed with explaining their actions and fairness (mothering instinct) rather than just getting a job done. On an aside note, I suspect you're a "new man" who defends the actions of women just so they'll like you, rather than because you actually agree with them. And secretly, you're on of the most sexist people imaginable, through the tiresome charade you project you hate women for making you do this... ...just hypothesising, don't take it too seriously. |
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Ceri you're a bloody fool. Sociobiological explanations of behaviour were exposed for what they were bcak in the 1950s. Explain to me why black people are under-represented in the higher paid jobs and professions. And no I'm not a new man. I'm just not an ignorant moron who spouts ill-informed trite opinions. |
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thats alot of shit if you don't want to work in the porn scene no body is going to force you then is up to them to choose what they what or not to do i guess many women do it for money and a few cos they like it |
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You're right, I'm wrong, I see the error of my ways, I've been a fool &etc &etc. I don't want to fall out over this or for people to take it too take it personally. Let's agree to disagree? Good day, Sir. |
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Things work a bit more subtely in society than they may appear. There are a complex set of variables, pressures etc that lead to the actions and decisions people make. Many of these are economic. If women are denied the routes to success that are enjoyed by middle class males they may choose other means e.g the porn industry. Its not an easy decision nor an easy life. There is a high proportion of suicdes in the industry (male also). Try thinking about things a bit more deeply than at the level of Sun opinion forming |
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When I worked as a gardener, there was a woman who couldn't compete in terms of work done (she simply wasn't as strong as the men), so to avoid being the next one laid off she used to flirt with the boss. Whilst I understand that this is unpleasant for her, why choose a physical job if you're not physically strong? I disagree with people being forced into the kind of position we've been talking about, but many people do simply *choose* what they do. It seems to be a recurring thing that I spot, peoples lack of acceptance of responsibility for their actions. They try to blame it on some external factor and don't accept that whilst this may ahve some bearing on it, *they* ultimately make choices and choose the way they live. |
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Individuals don't live in a vacuum. Though your head would seem to represent one. STOP READING THE DAILY MAIL |
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Uh, guys, this is really one of those arguments that could go on forever and neither one of you is going to convince the other one of anything. How about this: It is very likely that there are circumstances that make it more difficult for women to find jobs in certain "high-profil" positions in business, but there are also many circumstances that make certain jobs less likely to be filled by men. Although there are certain pressures that may cause some women to be abused an objectified in the porn industry, there are equally as many pressures that cause people to be homeless, destitute, and dying. Either things will slowly improve until we all grow up, evolve, and get the fuck off this planet, or we will become extinct. Just a thought. |
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Get off the planet? What you on about mate. You started off talking a bit of sense. You don't listen to that trippy Aphex Twin rubbish do you? Too many jazz cigarettes? |
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hehe. Wellllll, I was just obliquely referencing Bill Hicks, but that Aphex Twin guy, he might be an alien, nes pa? (wishes he had a jazz cigarette, would make work a lot more interesting) Back on topic, Mary Kate and Ashley, best porn stars ever. |
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I remember one! The only norwegian porn star; Tanya Hansen. Not so good-looking though. |
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Jonesy: I guess you don't have a favourite :) I agree, porn is hard work for women but don't underestimate the work that the male actors have to do. Imagine fucking for 6 hours with people telling you what to do..... Plus they don't make as much money as the women.... |
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Good point. |
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I like porn... what guy doesn't... come on, when you're 19, and younger you don't think "Oh, well she's being degraded" you think "whoa, she's hot, and I'm horny"... |
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For the majority, yes. |
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The only ones I can think of is Ron Jeremy and John Holmes. What does this say about me? |
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ive had loads of jazz cigarettes today! wasnt it Helen daniels who coined that phrase?? |
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I really never meant to have this topic turn into a debate/argument..... Just curiousity..... =( |
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what about men in porn flicks.. are they being abused too? just a a thought |
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by the way there is a lot of woman on high profile jobs in the world for example the president of XEROX is a woman this is getting point less porn is fun and thats it the other day i read that there is more woman getting powerful jobs so if a girl want to do porn is because she wANTS and she gets more money for less effort a girl can fuck more times than aguy and get paid for every scene but a guy can only fuck afew times a day and then what about gay porn there is no women getting "abuse" there |
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