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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:07 [#00412868]
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lucky... i think you have a good point
so far there seems to be no motive or gain from the shootings
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:08 [#00412869]
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It seems possible/more likely... doesn't it?
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 09:09 [#00412870]
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yeah like this one who blowed up a building killing 160 persons i think
extrem bulshitters ;)))
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:09 [#00412871]
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Maybe they're just a complete cunt who likes to fuck up other people lives.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:09 [#00412872]
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Yep, I think so.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 09:10 [#00412873]
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maybe its oliver north
he's been a bit too quiet recently...
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:10 [#00412875]
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even if it is military, government... the media will never use it that way.
i truly believe that no matter who this is, it will end up being pinned on whatever issue the government and media decide to use it for.
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:11 [#00412876]
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"Maybe they're just a complete cunt who likes to fuck up other people lives. " - but, as I said, that would point to a serial killer type person, and they usually have other issues than just fucking up peoples lives.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:11 [#00412877]
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thank you glass eater...
that should have been obvious that the OK thing was not just one guy
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:14 [#00412881]
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"OK thing"? What was that? Fill me in pls...
Zguru: re: how it will be used. You're right, it'll just get turned into a political football...
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Elastic
from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-22 09:14 [#00412883]
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you know, it doesn't have to be specifically a US army person. christ you people have some serious issues with self-righteousness. this guy could be from anywhere in the world! what, you think we've cornered the market on mass murder? really, well where was Hitler from again? gosh, I forget. was it America?
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 09:15 [#00412885]
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yop but maybe were wrong our society is so strange and wild
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:15 [#00412886]
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We all have our own theories and maybe one of us is right. Maybe we'll never know why they've done it. They'll probably get gunned down anyway so no-one'll know and for ages speculation will be all it is.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:18 [#00412893]
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I think they were trying to say it's most likely an American. Also with the type of shooting points to Army training.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-22 09:18 [#00412894]
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Wow, another one?
I know somebody that was just 45 seconds from the Ponderosa where that guy got shot the other day.
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:19 [#00412898]
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If hes military hes more likely to be US or Canadian military, just because it would be shitloads harder for a foreigner to a. get into the country and buy a sniper rifle b. stay hidden for so long
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 09:21 [#00412901]
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mmh difficult for strangers? as to learn how to fly a boeing for musulman strange people?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 09:21 [#00412902]
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the bus driver is now dead
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 09:23 [#00412905]
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10 dead 3 injured
hit ratio 77%
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:23 [#00412906]
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Yes, I thought it was most likely that it was US army simply because it happened in the US- if they had some real or percieved reason to hate the army/the state the are unlikely to fly to switzerland or Lithuania to take revenge.
We get ex-army psychos here too, but the difficulty associated with getting powerful firearms outside of places like Manchester & Bristol limits the number that can actually go on a proper rampage...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:24 [#00412908]
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Can you get Black market guns in America? That must be a possibility.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 09:24 [#00412909]
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i wouldn't be surprised if they already know who it is
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ward
from Cheshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:25 [#00412914]
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I personally find this to be funny...
imagine watching people walking in zig zags ???
haha.
:'(
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-22 09:26 [#00412916]
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I wonder if he'll go down in a blaze of glory with some epic shootout.
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:26 [#00412918]
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course you can get black market guns anywhere, but its easier and safer to get legal ones in the US - isn't it?
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Elastic
from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-22 09:27 [#00412921]
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Not neccessarily. If it were true Military training, this guy could be taking people out from 400 yards away. This sniper is reportedly only shooting from roughly 100 yards or less. He probably just purchased some kind of handbook on sniper shooting and nothing more. If it was a Marine, the guy would be 50 miles away from the scene by the time the body hit the ground.
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ward
from Cheshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:27 [#00412922]
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does this sniper guy leave tarrot cards near the scene ??
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:28 [#00412923]
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You've made a good point there Ceri which I should have emphasised in my post. Not saying that it's only American army personnel that go mad. We really do have our own fair amount of corruption and fucked up Army peeps.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 09:28 [#00412925]
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u can get a gun from a supermarket no? saw it in "bowling 4 colombine" usa is a freaky country...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:29 [#00412929]
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I thought generally black market guns were used for murder/robbery etc. in the usa- you don't want a gun to be linked to you if you have to leave it behind etc.
Ophecks: Yes, I reckon if they raid his house, it'll be rigged like that ex-army guys flat in "things to do in denver when you're dead", bombs everywhere and him armed to the hilt in a corner...
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:29 [#00412931]
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Elastic - you sound like you have alot of faith in the abilities of your armed forces... from what I have seen/read they've fucked up a hell of alot... and some would even say they are incompetant
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 09:30 [#00412933]
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yes ward and it doesnt make sense cos he always put the death card that's not really a card for punishment or violence...it means "changes in ur life"...
pretty stupid
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:31 [#00412935]
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incompetent even!
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Elastic
from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-22 09:32 [#00412938]
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No, my father fought in Vietnam. I just know what a real Marine is capable of, and this sniper clearly is not, thus somewhat disproving the "it MUST be an American soldier! they're all evil! HORRIBLE, I tell you, HORRIBLE!" theory.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:32 [#00412939]
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I've just found out new knowledge here. I was under the impression he was doing it from far away. I think I could snipe at 100 yards. I wonder if it's that Mickey Mouse bloke who recently left this board. He said he had to go "re-evaluate his life". :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:32 [#00412940]
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Ha ha yes, and friends in the forces of mine who've served with them tend not to hold them in high regard...
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:33 [#00412944]
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hey, i live near a town where the local video rental store also sells guns... believe me, if you want a gun, you can get one. in the house where i grew up, we had 14 guns around the fireplace and more throughout the house.
our driveway was about 1/10 mile long, and whenever a car would slow down, my step-dad would be looking at them through a scope on a korean war issued rifle. i've seen friends shoot dogs easily 200 yards away. no big deal.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:34 [#00412946]
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I'm now scared.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 09:34 [#00412948]
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well there's only 1 death card in every pack, so i guess they should ask all shopkeepers if anyone has bought 13 packs of tarot cards at once recently
god, i'm a genius
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:34 [#00412949]
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not that i support that... i only own a 22 bolt action rifle and a single barrel 20 guage for hunting... which i have not done in over 10 years
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Elastic
from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-22 09:34 [#00412950]
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That's exactly my point, anybody could do it from 100 yards or less. Any Marine who goes through basic boot camp training will learn to shoot from distances of up to 400 yards or further.
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ward
from Cheshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:35 [#00412956]
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this guy is cool, it's like this whole thing is off a film.
ehahhehaheh,.
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Elastic
from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-22 09:36 [#00412958]
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Whether it's an American or not, I think it's just some nutball. Now that I can say we do certainly have plenty of those here in the states.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:36 [#00412959]
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I'm totally agreeing with you now mate. My friend has recently joined the Army and the stuff he's been doing is shocking considering it's been about two months or so now since he's joined.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 09:36 [#00412960]
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and what about that bloke who's just left s club 7? what's he been up to?
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:37 [#00412961]
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shotting acurately from distance is not hard given the right gun and scope. Its pretty much point and click/bang. Do we know what gun/s are being used?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-10-22 09:37 [#00412963]
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Can't really good snipers with the right equipment, position and conditions do over 1Km?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-22 09:37 [#00412965]
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LMAO!!! Mickey Mouse... ''Disgruntled Aphex Twin Fan Apprehended After Killing Spree''.
That's worthy of a banning.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:37 [#00412966]
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhh!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 09:38 [#00412967]
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Me or him?
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