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jthm thats a pretty childish view, saying stuff like 'all cheerleaders should be shot'' i knwo im fourteen and whatever ( so i shudnt be saying this) but still , thats very narrow minded.your slagging them off for following a crowd and all that when maybe if thats what makes them happy you should leave them alone.And by being a 'loner/freak/whatever your still following somthing..just not in a crowd. do you get me? please take no offence in what ive said thanks Anon |
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I think it was a joke, I think he was saying that he dislikes the stereotypical cheerleader archetype. That said, choosing to be a freak (slipknot/marilyn manson hoodie wearers take note) is often more cliquey as they tend to be persecuted to a degree and as such stick together. |
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I hate the way people who wear black automatically get labelled as 'goths'. Goths go in for chains and leather jeans and stuff. |
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I know, wearing black just means you're a criminal ;) I used to wear almost exclusively black, but you're right, people seem to label you as a goth for all sorts of reasons... |
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Cliques suck but unfortunetely it's the way of the world. Even here at college there are cliques. I thought they'd grow out of them after high school but apparentely not. |
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everyone must find their own path sooner or later. If you don't use other people as crutches to indulge & re-inforce your shared facade ; all credit to you , its a good start. |
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im quite bored |
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ive said all i needed to say |
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read a book play a video game research a random topic online discover a new musician write a document about the ideal implementation of the singleton design pattern sit down and listen to everything you have by a particular artist.... |
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most people just hate cliques cos they're not in one themselves. not all cliques are bad; some groups of people are really nice and friendly. that said, most are extremely elitist and smug, delighting in the fact that you're not cool enough to be in their circle. |
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"if you're not a very confident person, it sometimes helps to fit in, especially in school. It does suk, but if it'll save you alot of grief sometimes it's worth it" pOgO is 100% right. i have a very level head, i wish i had done that because i know i could've kept my sense of individuality while making those minor compromises. i was too stubborn to do that though, which has led me to so much more grief than anyone deserves (not that it's any more than the rest of you; i'm saying i know where you are coming from). after finding some social acceptance (which, whether you're willing to admit it or not, everyone needs to a certain degree - whether it's a few people or everyone you know) you could then branch out again in a healthy environment, and that would make your other friends feel comfortable enough to express themselves as well. |
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you know what's funny? reading this thread made me realize that a lot of you hate people that are different from you because they hate you for being different. real mature guys. (truth be told, i used to feel the same way though.) |
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it also makes me see how contrived this whole "i'm a loner/outcast" act is. some of you (but not all) revel in it, rolling around in it like a filthy pig. how's that different from getting off on being popular and admired? well, both are unhealthy but at least the trendy kids are happy (deluded or not). |
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I only loathe those who are aggressive towards me. I'm a very passive person. What do I care how they dress etc.. it's entirely up to them and if they are happy then thats cool. |
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yes i agree |
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how are people aggressive towards you? i don't know how old you are, but in college i haven't experienced any taunting or attacking - i'm just ignored completely and sometimes gossiped about behind my back. (that was last year; i don't think i've done anything in the last 4 days to warrant gossiping, and really it was only a certain clique last year who said anything about me, though, again, never to my face.) |
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I experienced I fair amount of racism at the age of 14-16 in london. Ok so that was a long time ago but it's not like things have improved any. And get this - the racism was directed at me because i lived in france for 5 years previously, not because of my nationality - I'm english !! It made for a nasty atmosphere, not the kind of feeling you'd like to have in a place you'd like to call 'home'. |
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yea i imagine it'd be hard to deal with that. |
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yeah i think i pretty much agree with all you guys.. i think about 95% of what people think are groups of "friends" are really just 'cliques'... not real friends they need superficial stuff in common to make themselves feel like part of a group.. (..and on to insecurities, etc.... )(what this whole thread is about, i dont need to repeat it) its good to have real friends.... they are really really hard to find, and i think most people dont realize just how rare they are... a lot of popular, socially 'successful' people dont have real, close friends (most of them, i bet) anyways, once you find real friends you realize how shallow, fake, petty, etc the stupid clique you used to need to make you feel accepted is.. (...even if they are relatively nice people) ....or if you've already realized that (which i guess everyone in this thread has, as i did), it just feels amazing to have real friends... its completely and unimstakably different than a clique... its sad that a lot of people probably never get to learn the difference sorry, i dont mean to turn this in to some group-therapy session, i just thought i'd share w/ u guys cus a lot of us seem to be similar in this way, and up until very recently i was in the clique boat.. ...and while i still hang out with them at school.... (hey, its better than sitting alone, and besides like titsworth said sometimes they are nice guys.. almost friends, even) ....now that ive found some real, REAL friends i feel great in fact, my depression is gone (well, going).. dont get me wrong, i wasn't a loner before, i had "friends", just the kind almost everyone has... which is to say, members of the same clique |
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wow, that was quite long hehe, i didn't mean to vent to you guys;) what about you? how many of you have REAL, close friends, or just hang out with a 'clique'? |
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cliques are for 14 year old girls to prove to boys how cool they are. its supposed to turn them on or some freak junk. |
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most people live in cliques up into adulthood sad, really.... |
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yeah it is sad. sad enough for me to cry and get a hotdog |
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i'm not in a clique i never see the point of them either |
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as lao tsu once told me: care too much for others' approval and you will be their prisoner. |
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i wear what I want, whic is usually scruffy pants & t-shirts... |
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I can go whole days at college, hell, a WEEK, without talking to one person. I do NOT exaggerate when I say that I am a loner to the tenth power. |
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Me too.....I usually talk to noone..... |
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