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I've started to get increasingly pissed off at the way in which I have been guided into my life by my parents, society, and (more so) the state. When I was at school I was indirectly told that becoming a carpenter, or a plumber, or a brick layer, or an electrician, or a plasterer...etc.. was a shit thing to do, that would lead me nowhere. And, that that sort of job was only for dumb people. Now I'm 25 and have been through the system, got my degree, and started working in IT... as I was supposed to. I now find that my career prospects, while still ok, are hindered by the fact that every fucker was told the same thing as me, and hence I have to fight to find decent work, and watch while mid and low range IT pay falls each year. While pay for skilled tradesmen continues to increase. If I had left school at 16 or 18 and gone into an apprenticship as a plumber, or carpenter, I would now be fully qualified, and be able to use my skills ANYWHERE in the world at ANYTIME. I would love to go to Africa or some other 3rd world place and use my skills and knowledge to help those people. But most African villages need running water and food... not a DBA, or support analyst, or java developer... or whatever the fuck it is I do!! |
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ooh, hark at mister glass-is-half-empty :p |
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I work in computers. I LOATHE my job. |
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Yes. I had a natural aptitude for plastering. If I had done an apprentiship and got good at that I would be earning 3 times as much as I do now. Electricians get paid a lot too. That said. Africa needs DBAs too- get a job at the red cross/christian aid as a DBA for a lower salary if you weant to help. Lots of charities have IT jobs as understandably an international charity has huge logistic needs. |
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I studied IT at college and uni, I'm now 31 and work in IT, for a registered charity, from home, and I thoroughly enjoy it. |
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I'm not bitter about it really, its just something that has come to my attention recently. Its a bit of a worry for the future, cos kids are still being told the same things, and being encouraged to go to university to study something for 3-4 years that (in most cases) is entirely irrelevant to the rest of there lives. Blair wants to see 50% of school leavers in university... and all of those graduates are going to expect (as I did) a 'graduate' job... are there that many graduate jobs out there?! |
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Yeah I should have stayed on at college and become a general nurse for the NHS..But I wanted money ie. full time job.I choose to work at a jewelry store acting like Carol Vorderman on acid,being all happy to arsey customers. A dead end job. Plumbing is the best trade to go into at the moment.Up to 40k a year. |
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I'm not saying that I couldn't do charity work... I just would have liked to have been given the opportunity to do some sort of manual work... or at least have been told about it. Thats not to say I cant start now either |
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Yeah, where I worked as a labourer before (and thats all it was despite the "botanist" job title- half the people there knew as much about plants as me) there was a drive for the people to do 3 year uni courses... it wasn't needed for the job we did. People should just accept that some jobs don't need to be "graduate jobs" and it's silly to pretend they do. I always think business course are the funniest. "Teaching business" seems oxymoronical. How much better of would the kids be if they spent those 4 years starting their own business? They'd leave with no debt (or at least less than a graduate) and have far more useful experience than the latest american management style. Management seems less and less effective. I can count on one hand the number of managers I've had I'd consider "good". Most just pull rank all the time and lack the technical knowledge to understand issues when you go to them for help. Xceque: I'd probably like to do what you're doing eventually. |
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Is IT work THAT bad? |
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I've done both and I have to admit whilst I like the "idea" of manual labour it does get bloody boring. The number of days where I felt suicidal whilst just digging holes etc. particularly if you're working alone rather than with someone you can talk to. I wouldn't mind doing metal work (I used to love forge work), but again I need more mental stimulation than that. There's no way I could do that all my life... |
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Digging holes day in day out would probably get fairly boring, but so does doing anything repeatedly without using your brain... including most IT jobs. How many of you in IT can actually say that you feel challenged by your job, day to day? I can't. IT work is great because you get to play with the latest technologies, and sit on your arse all day. I would love to be able to build myself a cupboard... or a chair... or a house... or something that I and other could get immediate satisfaction from. |
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i did computer job, first as a 'computer expert' for office ladies (read: active helpdesk) and after that web design. both of the jobs sucked. i live with guys who have all been in hi-paying it jobs and have burnt out totally. but then again, my other jobs haven't been too great either. except maybe being camp and club counsellor for kids. also working in a roleplaying/computer game shop was kool. but those were more like hobbies; real jobs usually just suck. |
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I've changed jobs to a more progamming orientated section so now the work is more challenging, but it still doesn't interest me and there is zero job satisfaction. Personally I just want a little music shop in the local market where I can sit and smoke dope all day, selling decent cds and laughing at anyone who comes in for Robbie Williams or Popstars stuff. |
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