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nacmat
on 2002-12-17 12:44 [#00483812]
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do you know ETA? they have killed more than a thousand people in the last 30 years in spain (I know its nothing compared to 11-9-01)
they killed again today... I am sad
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nacmat
on 2002-12-17 12:45 [#00483813]
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they go little by little , one by one... they dont have much money so they cannot prepare a big thing like world trade centre, but they have been killing for over 30 years now and I am sick of it...
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-12-17 17:14 [#00484091]
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that sucks nacmat....
what is their motive?
i cant believe how many people have such a compliant attitude towards terrorism....
("Oh but they're fighting for bla bla bla! ...and the government did this to them a while ago!" etc) ....nothing justifies deliberately killing civilians imo.....
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2002-12-17 17:16 [#00484092]
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if nothing justifies killing innocent civilians, then anti-terrorism efforts don't either
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-12-17 17:19 [#00484095]
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no they dont, of course not
and their goal isn't to kill as many civilians as possible, is it?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-17 17:20 [#00484096]
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i don't get that bryce.. you mean anti-terrorism efforts also don't justify killing civilians..
no of course not, why should they.?
i think there's a difference between innocent civilians and terrorists..
maybe i got you wrong, maybe you get me wrong..
no offense :)
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-12-17 17:22 [#00484098]
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yeah maybe i misinterpreted you too, bryce... (?)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-17 17:24 [#00484104]
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that sucks but what is spain doing? i mean they have troubles with gibraltar in south, baskia north?
they should make a solution already
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nacmat
on 2002-12-17 17:52 [#00484118]
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gibraltar is a problem, but really people there is happy
ETA is a big problem... about 200000 people in the vasc country vote for BATASUNA which is the political side of ETA.
they kill cos they want to be independent... ridiculous
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-17 17:56 [#00484123]
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yes, it is ridiculous especially because it has been going on for ages it is really sad this stupid things are happening
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nacmat
on 2002-12-17 17:58 [#00484127]
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wanting independence is not ridiculous (even though it goes opposite to the european direction) but it is ridiculous to ask for it killing
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-17 18:04 [#00484137]
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is this thing going to come to an end at all?
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nacmat
on 2002-12-17 18:08 [#00484143]
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no.... why?
the reason for killling (the real one) is not independence anymore... it is money! yea ETA is a big machine of making money... so it wont stop now... they like the business
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-17 18:11 [#00484148]
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how do they collect money?
btw, do you recognise the monkey in my avatar?
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nacmat
on 2002-12-17 18:13 [#00484149]
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the monkey? no... its from gibraltar or what?
money? (if you dont pay me I kill your family) understand?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-12-17 18:15 [#00484150]
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huh, they came low...
monkey is from gibraltar, yes
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Zozu
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-17 18:26 [#00484157]
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It seems to me that each country has pockets of subversive terrorists.
Weve had the IRA in the United Kindom since the early 20th century and theyve killed nearly 1,800 people over a 25 year or so period.
Thank goodness we have a ceasefire at the moment.
I really hope something can be done to stop ETA killing more innocent people in Spain.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2002-12-18 01:07 [#00484298]
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what I meant was that current anti-terrorism efforts, while targeting suspected terrorists, also kill many civilians
many MANY more than we are probably told about
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melack
from barcielwave on 2002-12-18 02:06 [#00484322]
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the ETA problem is similar to the IRA... Jerry Adams has been here several times trying to explain his methods for getting peace...
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-18 02:10 [#00484325]
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Christ... this is news to me! :-/
Thats shit!!!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-18 02:16 [#00484333]
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You said they had no money
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-12-18 02:18 [#00484335]
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But what about the terrorism of the British government or the Loyalist paramilitries? Bloody Sunday?
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