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how would U call it? |
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focus on the definition. the name can be anything, preferably following the conventional rule of other naming objects something a human can pronounce with it's mouth tongue and vocal cords, as long as we agree on the definition. |
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definition exists. we do not have to agree. you are talking about axiom. |
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i call it "intelligent electronic music" |
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OK: the music we are commonly discussing on this board is not 'intelligent' since it's inanimate and unable to think. It's not braindance either 'cause dance is the moving expression of your body (by definition). I call it experimental music or just electronic music ( good electronic music ). |
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if we made or have an objective definition, perhaps one based on math, it would be hard for people to disagree. all knowledge is founded on axiom isn't it? eventually you have to accept something as true because there is no way to 100% prove anything |
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Braindance is Rephlex..IDM is the rest..simple... |
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We grasp reality by applying abstractions to specifics things. Rope-like is an abstraction regarding shape. Rising, falling. heaviness and pinkness are abstract concepts. Through abstraction we classify, putting into each classification things with similar characteristics. Creatures who have characteristics like ourselves we classify as human. If we poke them and see they are solid rather than ghosts we have added one more characteristic as verification. Sometimes we get our categories mixed up and need to reclassify, such our neighbor not being an ape, or the creature flying around is a bat rather than a bird. To classify we must differentiate. |
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( i think braindance is more than rephlex. but maybe we should call it _intellectual_ because everyone talks about it, so it IS intellectual. (ex people dont talk so much and so deep about dnb, hiphop nor anything else) anyway i like the word experimental, because that music is about it. whatever ) |
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yes but braindance in an interesting metaphor if you use abstraction to interpret it rather than literally. |
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i still like "music for insane people" as someone suggested |
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"To classify we must differentiate." True only if you consider that 1 item cannot belong to two classes. Be careful you look like a 14 years old kid talking about math classes he will take in 6 years. Maths are a dianoïa, yoy cannot apply them to real life. |
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( insane... yes, i can imagine a _hard, normal daddy_ crossing a street listening to weird stuff... i was trying to put afx in on a gig, after 20 secs they pissed me off. it is serious dose of intensive impulses... i think you can not listen it for a dinner or a conversation in the background... you concentrate on it or it disturbes you... ) |
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so math can only be applied to that which is not "real life", like fantasy life or something? I don't know the definition of dianoïa. Don't let school get in the way of your education. You shouldn't learn in year designated chunks. |
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No ä dianoïa is different from a science (astronomy - chemsitry - sociology ) because it cannot be verified thru experiments. It's the upper layer in other words. And don't let your lack of education prevent you from doing your own researchs. |
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( dianoia kikqs ass. ) |
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Sorry but braindance is Rephlex. There is a lot on Rephlex catalogue that is IDM fans would really balk at being called Intelligent. Actually some of that stuff is charmingly and endearingly and wholly intentionally childish and dumb. |
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knobject |
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it's funny how genre names can get strange. if i, in finland, say idm, people (not all but most of the ignorant ones) immediatly think about very dark non-danceable chillout music, like illbient. and when i try to explain idm is not suicidal at all - well, no difference. only schematic material really fits that description. also, no-one here ever knows that idm comes from intelligent dance music. as for myself, i call it mostly 'strange electronic music' or even 'different electronic music' (most of my pals think of electronic music as techno, house, trance) |
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its all electro to me |
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...for me, electro is a much narrower thing :) |
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i agree with Flea...Braindance is a trademark owned by Rephlex. rephlex music is Braindance. IDM is a more general term. but now it's called Xltronic music, right? |
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IDM,. rolls of the tongue nicely,.. I use that |
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?..yes I go under knobject sometimes...? |
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neitherr if i could. they both sound bent. but if anything i say IDM. |
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i choose to just say electrronic. |
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i use the word braindance, not only for rephlex stuff, simply because i just like its meaning and how it sounds. |
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Interesting discussion. |
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Idm (Industrial untill I realised intelligent) I wood ov stuk with Industrial as I don't much care for intelligent but I figured Industrial was industrial etc Ambient Electronic or electronica but mostly I just say weird electronic ambient stuff or something like that. Briandance -never. |
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i call your "IDM" & "BRAINDANCE" stuff... childish hippy music |
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I usually say idm when I talk to people that have an Idea of what I'm talking about... Electronica to the profane, without even caring if they understood... |
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I hate those terms,I just call it fucked up music (everyone likes to abreiviate so you can call it fum if you like;-) |
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i never use the term idm. i don't understand why it's even acknowledged. i wish that this post would be the last i ever heard it from anyone other than bonehead music journalists. braindance is simply rephlex, cause that's what they call it ans it's their music. |
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at school, where i can't be bothered to explain to people what 'idm' means and stands for, i just say electronic music. if they're reeeaallly closed minded and listening to britney spears, i call i techno to save me frustration. at home, where my whole family is digging most 'idm', i can actually call it braindance, or idm. -------- what was that new term that didn't catch on a while ago? |
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cranial creations |
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mclane: hahaha, that reminds me, the other day i was wearing my home made venetian snares shirt (it says i heart venetian snares). and she said "what's a venetian snare?" and i said "he's this guy who makes FUCKED UP MUSIC!" and she was like "so why do you like him" and i just kind of looked at her, and i was like "because. i. love. fucked. up. music." |
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The term IDM got it's start mainly owing to the Artifical Intelligence series...released by WARP |
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hence as a rule of thumb originally IDM=WARP Braindance=Rephlex |
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I call it electronica . i call rephlex electronica . i call techno ,techno , and i call R and b shite. simple. |
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I explain what it's like,.. so if I was explaining autechre I'd say that it's "glitch", fluke would be "catchy chilled duff" fight club soundtrack would be "basement breakbeats" BOC would be "simple aesthetic melodies",.. my friends know what Im on about usually |
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BRAINDANCE! |
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ELECTRONIC! |
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