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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-12-02 15:45 [#00465172]
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this is from a norwegian news site:
"(...) soldiers from Peru abuses dogs in the most cruel way. the dogs are being tied up and are unable to defend themselves in any way, and the soldiers torture them with knives. this is a part of their military training where the goal is ruthlessness in real life close combat.
The dogs are suffering a slow and agonising death by the many cuts and wounds caused by the knives...."
If you want to protest against this animal cruelty, please send a mail to the government in Peru!
i've put a link to the news page with images...WARNING: NOT FOR THE FAINTHEARTED
see the pictures here
Send a mail right now!!
href="Emba.perusuec@telia.com, nyheter@tvnorge.no">mailaddress
thank you.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-12-02 15:47 [#00465175]
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ok, just send the mail to one of these addresses and name the topic "protest against dog killings in Peru"
Emba.perusuec@telia.com
nyheter@tvnorge.no
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 15:58 [#00465184]
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I will, those facks think they can just go around doing that shit!?!
How about I come down there and do this to all the peruvian soldiers HUH!?
HOW WOULD THAT LIKE THAT SHIT!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-02 15:58 [#00465185]
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they eat them in korea but everybody still supported the world cup
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diablo
on 2002-12-02 15:59 [#00465189]
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kick a cat!
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-12-02 16:02 [#00465192]
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dobbin: yeah, i know. they even wanted to "share" their speciality by giving out free dog-burgers
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-12-02 16:05 [#00465198]
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alsatian quarter pounders?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-12-02 16:33 [#00465225]
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I hope they'll lose all their humanity and kill eachother
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-12-02 16:35 [#00465231]
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what the hell's wrong w/ those people?
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2002-12-02 16:41 [#00465243]
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Wtf diablo, selectively compassionate arent we. I think we should pressure our govt. as well. I think it has a bit more influence then we do. Send it to the man.
president@whitehouse.gov
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-02 16:48 [#00465262]
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"what the hell's wrong w/ those people?"
i second that. Im sending a email soon.
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Gubb
on 2002-12-02 16:54 [#00465281]
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OMG! those poor little dogs! now where is my hamburger?
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:09 [#00465386]
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Good lord, this planet is fucked up!!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:12 [#00465393]
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it's no different than 4 lions bringing down a water buffalo by biting on it for 35 minutes. both the lions and soldiers do it for a reason.
it would suck to be a dog though.
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Gubb
on 2002-12-02 18:15 [#00465395]
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that is some fucked up reasoning you got going there... there is quite a diffrence between a human and a lion IMO.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:17 [#00465398]
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but the lions do it because it is a) Natural b) how they eat, they don't have resturants
They don't NEED to train the soldiers this way. There is also a big difference between torture and killing a dog quickly should you want to eat it.
We kill our cows pretty humainly, Korea should with dogs, this is just fucking crazy though.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:18 [#00465399]
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also, those pictures looked kinda hoaky/fake, is it just me or what?
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:25 [#00465408]
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don't get me wrong, i'd never do that to an animal.
how do you know what lions are like? have you ever been one?
lions kill to survive. these soldiers kill with the intent it will help them survive. so there is no basic difference.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:26 [#00465410]
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i think its wrong to mistreat animals but why dont people worry about humans who are treated even worse first :)
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:26 [#00465412]
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i think you miss that the solider are "willing" participants. Meaning, if they defected, or didn't belong to the military, and harm dogs, they wouldn't die like lion would if it gave up eating meat.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:31 [#00465417]
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:) but it's not in lions' nature to give up eating meat. evidently it's in human nature to do these things in the name of survival.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:35 [#00465424]
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fucking humans
why do they have to be so complicated?
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-12-02 18:38 [#00465428]
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I've seen those images/videos in a local news tv show, and I felt really sad. People is crazy, like those countries where "justice" kill women for adultery and other things. what about all those riots for a beauty competition?
:(
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Powli
from Lawrence, KS on 2002-12-02 18:40 [#00465429]
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Do you eat meat?...If you do there is no point in protesting because it is just the same only you eat the meat of the tortured animals.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-02 18:43 [#00465435]
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protest about dog cruelty ur so cruel that means u dont car about baboons cruelty :'(
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Gubb
on 2002-12-02 18:45 [#00465436]
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..or that country who still has the death sentance and gives them self the rights to go to any country in the world and kill people if they want to.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-12-02 18:45 [#00465437]
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dunno who you directed that too, but I love meat.
No problem with people eating dog in other parts of the world too. No company in the US would be allowed to torture their animals, PETA would be ALL over them.
Human killing of animals, usually with a slit of the throat, does not bother me, we ARE carnivors by nature.
Torturing animals is fucked up. Torturing animals to train other people to brutaly kill other humans is fucking insane.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 18:47 [#00465440]
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Crocomire.... thing is... people dont HAVE to kill innocent dogs to survive as we have MILLIONS of other ways to train soldiers for combat.... this torturing dogs is just wrong... flat out wrong.. and there is no justifying it. War is wrong, killing is wrong
"it's no different than 4 lions bringing down a water buffalo
by biting on it for 35 minutes"
its instictive that lions bite at the neck aiming for the jugular vains.... so even THEY try to make it a quick death..
"lions kill to survive. these soldiers kill with the intent
it will help them survive. so there is no basic difference"
there is a BIG difference... soldiers are not nessisary in the world... and also, we cant train them without hurting innocent dogs for christs sake....
there is no justifying animal cruelty...
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 18:49 [#00465441]
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cant = can....
typos... AAAAFFFGGGGHHH!!!
we CAN train them without hurting innocent animals....
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-12-02 21:13 [#00465659]
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"Crocomire.... thing is... people dont HAVE to kill innocent
dogs to survive as we have MILLIONS of other ways to train soldiers for combat...."
do you know anything about what is neccesary for types of military training? specifically the type this foreign country is implementing?
"its instictive that lions bite at the neck aiming for the jugular vains.... so even THEY try to make it a quick death.."
that's right, but in the case of the water buffalo the neck is too big, so they bite at the whole animal until it's dead, and it takes a long time, they do what they have to to survive.
"soldiers are not nessisary in the world... and also, we cant train them without hurting innocent dogs for christs sake...."
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 21:26 [#00465678]
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look at the post above that last thing was a typo... cant was suppost to be CAN
""do you know anything about what is neccesary for types of
military training? specifically the type this foreign country is implementing?"
my dad and my grandpa have done work for the US military, which is one of the most powerful military forces in the world..... so yes... I do know what is "nessisary" for training.
The United States does a hell camp excercise when training special operations soldiers... where they are placed as a hostage and are tortured and serverly beaten (when joining a special ops force the goverment has license to kill...so they go as far as they want).... so they know first hand what its like to suffer, and how to withhold crucial classified information until death... and when they graduate from special op's training they are the ones who have to tourture the new recruits in the hell weeks to come.... no animals invovled at all....
its not nessisary.... and there is NO way of justifying animal brutality
Its just plain wrong, no matter which way you slice it
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 21:28 [#00465682]
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And you are a fool if you cant see that its wrong........ IMO
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-02 21:36 [#00465697]
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i don't think you wanna know what they do in med schools around the world to animals (dogs mainly) i saw it for myself......and it was beastly.....it's been done for more years than we can count.
the way i do my part for animals of all sorts is by supporting my local animal shelter with donations of mats for the dogs to lay on instead of the hard cold concrete floor, as well as monitary donations.
i'm gonna email this group, but it would be naive to think it will stop any of this, i think the live skining of DOGS in asia for COATS is the worse thing i've ever seen in my life......what is UP with that!!!
*wishes animals could TALK*
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 21:39 [#00465706]
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I wish they could talk too LeCoeur
I dont understand why we as humans on earth have to pick on and torture things weaker then us?
Its ridiculous.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-02 21:49 [#00465719]
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today on the local news they showed this man who's caring for 32 cats....trying to find them good homes (he gives them excellent care) funding dried up and he's appealing to people to help him find these cats a home.
it broke my heart, cos most are just thrown away......like life is so disposable now.....is truly SICK!
i've given up trying to understand things like this.....like the Holocaust, there is nothing that can possible explain what people do to people.....or animals.
just do YOUR part, every little bit helps. i offered to drop off a couple bags of cat food for this guy (in lew of money) and whomever answered the phone said whatever you can spare. =/ it was sweet and sad at the same time....i'm gonna try to get some peepz at work to help.....cos it's such a small thing. but small things add UP!!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-02 23:22 [#00465903]
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Definatly.... all that good karma has to pay off some way or another
I recently rescued an animal
but I gave it back to the owner and it was really sad... cause I got attached so much
People can just be to cruel to things they are afaid of... just look at how bears scare people... ... then look at how many bears people go out and shoot.
Sickening
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