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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-17 06:04 [#00445097]
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it's not about weapons..it's about control
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 04:45 [#00446207]
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The Siege
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 04:49 [#00446211]
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did you see that doco on Assignment a wee while ago. had all the "contenders" for the next government.
have you read Jean Baudrillard's article "The Gulf War did not take place" ? Quite a provokative/insightful read.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 04:54 [#00446217]
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yeah I did..pretty frighteneing concept..wonder who many are oil company execs..like they placed in Afghanistan..
I read the Baudrillard article a while ago but I must reread it..I got it off that textz site..
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:00 [#00446220]
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oh wicked .. it's on textz now .. wasn't there when i checked last .. awesome *wanders over to textz to check out if there's any new stuff*
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 05:02 [#00446223]
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It was there originally actually..
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 05:11 [#00446228]
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sorry my bad the article that I have is called
In the Shadow of the Millennium ..which quotes elements of The Gulf War did not take place..
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:13 [#00446229]
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mmm.. can't find it.
strange
Jean Baudrillard A Conjuration of Imbeciles Jean Baudrillard Disneyworld Company Jean Baudrillard Global Debt and Parallel Jean Baudrillard Illusion of the End or Strike of Jean Baudrillard In the Shadow of the Millennium Jean Baudrillard L'esprit du terrorisme Jean Baudrillard No Reprieve For Sarajevo Jean Baudrillard Plastic Surgery for the Other Jean Baudrillard Radical Thought
are all the Jean B. articles that come up for me?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:17 [#00446233]
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ah .. cool cool :)
hehe ... *slightly off topic, i took the liberty to upload a remix i did of yellow snarkle's Llboing222... track on wremaxd ... will try and do some more remixing this week (if time allows) ... any suggested tracks or whatever?*
Soo.. elections quasi-soonish .. CNN must be having a field day
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 05:21 [#00446238]
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hmm..pick and remix whichever you want..and upload whatever you want as well:)
look forward to hearing yer version of yellow snarkle:)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 05:23 [#00446243]
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US elections?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-18 05:24 [#00446244]
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have you read Jean Baudrillard's article "The Gulf War did not take place" ? Quite a provokative/insightful read.
I've been meaning to. I thought it was an interesting idea. Still, I know a couple of people who served in it, so unless 3 of my mates are lying it did take place :P
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:25 [#00446247]
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cool .. i'll see what i can do.
re: snarkle, might do some more versions .. but yeah .. has its moments (imho).
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:29 [#00446250]
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apparently the title accounts for 90% of the misunderstanding.
he isn't saying it didn't "take place" as such, but it wasn't an event (ie something that can't be predicted). um.. i could say more .. dunno if it will give away too much or whatever?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-18 05:31 [#00446251]
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some say the title was a provocation..an intellectual challenge/red herring...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:51 [#00446264]
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in an important sense the war didn't "take place" - but Baudrillard is far from ignoring all the lives lost .. in fact, it could be argued that this was his incentive for writing the article.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-11-18 05:56 [#00446267]
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ciao amigos .. ats me for anight
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-11-18 08:08 [#00446345]
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I think after Saddam is gone some other dictator will take over and if that's not the case then Iraq will split into 3 sections how will probably be at war with eachother... And we will not be any safer because then they hate us even more. And besides, I can think of another country in that area who ignored UN resolutions for a while, commits acts of war and is in the posession of weapons of mass destruction and is supported in this by the west...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-18 08:42 [#00446379]
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"I think after Saddam is gone some other dictator will take over and if that's not the case then Iraq will split into 3
sections how will probably be at war with eachother... "
um, on what do you base that..?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-11-19 06:37 [#00447885]
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Iraq: Ethnic makeup: 75% Arab, 15-20% Kurd (who don't like eachother)
Religion: 60% Shiite Muslim, 35% Sunni Muslim (lots of tension between the two)
+lots of warlords + lots of precious oil to fight for
I'd say it's a highly unstable situation...
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diablo
on 2002-11-19 07:30 [#00447983]
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I think the title refers to the fact that war was never actually declared. Hence Gulf "Conflict." But I might be wrong...
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