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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-12 13:09 [#00438925]
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I was just listening to a new track I'd done. And about halfway through a childs voice said, "Someday I'll go to heaven, Jesus said I would..."
I thought, what the fuck? I didn't put this there... a few moments later I realised I had accidentally unpaused musicmatch somehow and started some Alec Empire in the background. Ho hum.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-12 13:09 [#00438927]
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HA HA HA HA HA
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2002-11-12 13:12 [#00438937]
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Leave it in, I dare you.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-11-12 13:12 [#00438940]
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these things happen :)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2002-11-12 13:12 [#00438943]
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As long as it sounds right, of course.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-11-12 13:13 [#00438945]
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it is the lucky shit like that that pushes people to keep making music through thick and thin, keep it in and keep the story, that is great
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-11-12 13:13 [#00438947]
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yeah, we're assuming it fits in ok........
and if it doens't? fuck 'em, I say leave it anyway :)
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-12 13:14 [#00438949]
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he'd get sued if Alec Empire ever found out. (if he doesn't get permission to use the sample, that is)
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-12 13:16 [#00438952]
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beforre Anus_Presley my alias was the_crier but beforre that it was Phallic_Alec.
Seeing Alec Empire reminded me.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-12 13:38 [#00438979]
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Yes, It fitted really well. The timing was perfect too. I was tempted to put it in, but like he said, alec could probably sue me (although, he himself, or rather nic endo, may of sampled it from somewhere else- it certainly doesn't sound like either of them) and as this is a track I'm going to include on my demo cd-r it's probably not a wise move ;)
I also just don't sample (unless remixing) on principle. It's all the anti-plaigarism stuff I got drilled into me at uni.
Thinking about it, I may just get a kid to say it and record them. It's not a long enough/unique passage (and besides, I think it's from a popular prayer or hymn) that I could be sued, so long as it's not the same actual sample. Fun fact legal fans: Lousie Wener used this technique to nick half a line of a beachboy's lyric due to legal difficulties getting the rights to do it...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-13 05:00 [#00439999]
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Thinking about it, I'm going to record myself saying it and play around with the pitch etc. to make it sound like a child talking...
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2002-11-13 05:04 [#00440000]
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he can only sue you if you make a profit from the recording......as long as you don't sell your cds, or try to get a record deal with that track, you're fine
keep it in if you're not selling it
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-13 05:06 [#00440002]
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mistakes are amazing... i recorded a tune from PC to tape.. over the wire and somehow got these weird creaky door sounds that totally work with the tune... i reckon i must have taped over some sounds.
I did the same when taping some Dublin electroinica over some squarepusher and the residual squarepousher under the new beats sounds amazing!! I love creepy stuff.. throbbing gristel, whitehuse, BoC, chaos AD
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2002-11-13 05:08 [#00440003]
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Mr. Empire wont sue u for coptright stuff. WTF, he is part of the Atari Teenage Riot!!! And the record label is his property too!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-13 05:23 [#00440015]
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But if I wanted to use it on a demo tape it would be for personal gain... Still unabomber has a point, Alec isn't the sort of chap to go in for petty suing. It'd harm his, "don't give a..." image ;)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-13 05:32 [#00440024]
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Alec Empire rips people off. Track 10 on his new album? 'Twist the knife (slowly)' by Naplam Death. Try it. Death Favors The Enimy? rip off.
I love Alec Empire but y'know...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-13 05:46 [#00440043]
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I was listening to Intelligence & Sacrifice CD 2 last night. A lot of it was pretty weak. I mean, it sounded like the stuff I do when I just screw around in audiomulch... just making random noise for the hell of it. Still, CD 1 is good.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2002-11-13 05:48 [#00440046]
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Agree. CD 1 is far better
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-13 05:49 [#00440048]
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Download 'Twist the knife (slowly)' by Napalm Death and compare it to 'Death favours the enemy' by Alec Empire. Then look at the note on his CD that says 'All sound made by us' and you will think a little dif towards him. I dig the guy but some of the things he does is like 'hmmm........'
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-13 05:56 [#00440055]
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I know, I'd noticed that 'sound made by us' on the CD. Esp. as some of the stuff is done on turntables and I'm sorry, but you are using someone else's sound even if you're scratching it (unless he could be arsed to have custom scratch records cut- whihc I doubt).
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