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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2002-11-01 19:13 [#00424460]
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So Autechre's Anti-EP was made to protest some kind of "Non-repetitive beats" law? I'm unclear... what is this law all about? Was it just for live performances? Is it still in effect?
Another thing... the ep says "Containts Non-Repetitive Beats" but 2/3 beats were repetive on the cd...
It's all so confusing...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-01 19:17 [#00424463]
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its do to with legislation which was brought in to stop illegal raves. that's about all i know. the only autechre release i really like.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:17 [#00424464]
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okay all the tracks except Flutter contain REPETATIVE beats.
the law was there agianst raves or something and the big guys probably didn't want raves. i had a proper explaination somehwere but i lost it....
but yeah, anti-ep is about protest.
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:18 [#00424466]
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i've got a question about tri repetae++ actually... lemme go grab the cd
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:19 [#00424468]
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sure go ahead Bile...this group likes to help...
well i do anyway.. :)
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:20 [#00424470]
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okay, so on the two cds themselves and in the booklet, there's printed text that says "incomplete without surface noise."...
what the hell does that mean? always wondered about that
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-01 19:23 [#00424471]
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it means it has to sound shit to sound good. it's their excuse for it not being very good, so if you don't like it you can't get your money back. it's like a disclaimer.
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:24 [#00424472]
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well I like it a lot, it's a fantastic album
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:24 [#00424473]
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lol! thats one of their sayings along with "Pleasure is our business" that was on the side of their Incunabula cd.
its meaning probably relates to the vinyl version where you'll get that pop n hiss. in the end that noise would bring a new dimention to the music that a cd would never give
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:25 [#00424474]
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its a cool saying :) id like 'incomplete without surface noise' on a tshirt
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:25 [#00424475]
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ohhh
well that makes sense
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2002-11-01 19:27 [#00424477]
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Thanks for the info... Earth, Come now, can you really listen to Clipper off Trip Rep and say that it isnt very good?
To be honest, I love every single Autechre release except for the Anti-Ep... it's pretty lackluster in comparison to most of thier work, but it does have its moments. I really hate the way song 2 starts.. ugh...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-01 19:52 [#00424499]
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in interviews when asked on which format their music should be listened to, ae said that cd comes closest to the way they hear it when recording to DAT.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:54 [#00424503]
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what is DAT? it sounds really advanced by the way you said that...
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uviol
from United States on 2002-11-01 19:56 [#00424505]
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it means digital audio tape, right?? I had no idea until very recently. i always heard the term thrown around too and i was like 'what?!?'
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:59 [#00424508]
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tape? digital tape? and this sounds better than cd? so like why don't they sell music on DAT? sure make a DAT player too! :) why not? id buy it for sure
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:59 [#00424509]
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tape? digital tape? and this sounds better than cd? so like why don't they sell music on DAT? sure make a DAT player too! :) why not? id buy it for sure
it would be super underground
"Pfff...cd? i listen to my music on DAT"
and then run off snickering :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-01 20:05 [#00424517]
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DAT has a much bigger range than cds, talking frequency-wise.. :)
what they more or less ment, was that if you listen to ae on cd you more or less hear it the same way they heard it when making it.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-11-02 01:51 [#00424810]
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i dont get why this would make DAT better though. as long as the frenquencies that range from 20Hz to 20,000Hz are covered, my human ears wont care for a wider range...
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-11-02 01:55 [#00424811]
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not frequence.. sample rate.. cd is 44000 and dat is 48000.. this means the anolog wave form is chopped into 44000 parts per second.. dats are used that much any more with the advent of cheap harddrive recording
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-11-02 01:56 [#00424812]
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not used that is... 96000 is the new standard....
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-11-02 03:51 [#00424851]
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Most studios and pro musicians record onto DAT, which is then used for the cd-pressing. I was so close to buying one portable DAT a couple of years ago. Cost £799! I'm glad I didn't, CD-R is just as good at home. I quess the use of tape is more straight forward than burning onto disc.
There are consumer DAT-players, but DAT is very much a pro music industry format.
-P
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