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         |  Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2002-11-01 19:13 [#00424460] Points: 5097 Status: Lurker
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 | So Autechre's Anti-EP was made to protest some kind of "Non-repetitive beats" law? I'm unclear... what is this law
 all about? Was it just for live performances? Is it still in
 effect?
 
 Another thing... the ep says "Containts Non-Repetitive
 Beats" but 2/3 beats were repetive on the cd...
 
 It's all so confusing...
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-01 19:17 [#00424463] Points: 27859 Status: Regular
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 | its do to with legislation which was brought in to stop illegal raves. that's about all i know. the only autechre
 release i really like.
 
 
 
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:17 [#00424464] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | okay all the tracks except Flutter contain REPETATIVE beats. 
 
 the law was there agianst raves or something and the big
 guys probably didn't want raves. i had a proper explaination
 somehwere but i lost it....
 
 but yeah, anti-ep is about protest.
 
 
 
 
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         |  BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:18 [#00424466] Points: 1769 Status: Regular
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 | i've got a question about tri repetae++ actually... lemme go grab the cd
 
 
 
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:19 [#00424468] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | sure go ahead Bile...this group likes to help... 
 well i do anyway.. :)
 
 
 
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         |  BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:20 [#00424470] Points: 1769 Status: Regular
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 | okay, so on the two cds themselves and in the booklet, there's printed text that says "incomplete without surface
 noise."...
 
 what the hell does that mean? always wondered about that
 
 
 
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         |  earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-01 19:23 [#00424471] Points: 27859 Status: Regular | Followup to BILE: #00424470
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 | it means it has to sound shit to sound good. it's their excuse for it not being very good, so if you don't like it
 you can't get your money back. it's like a disclaimer.
 
 
 
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         |  BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:24 [#00424472] Points: 1769 Status: Regular
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 | well I like it a lot, it's a fantastic album 
 
 
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:24 [#00424473] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | lol!  thats one of their sayings along with "Pleasure is our business" that was on the side of their Incunabula cd.
 
 its meaning probably relates to the vinyl version where
 you'll get that pop n hiss.  in the end that noise would
 bring a new dimention to the music that a cd would never
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:25 [#00424474] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | its a cool saying :)  id like 'incomplete without surface noise' on a tshirt
 
 
 
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         |  BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-01 19:25 [#00424475] Points: 1769 Status: Regular | Followup to Amonbrune: #00424473
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 | ohhh 
 well that makes sense
 
 
 
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         |  Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2002-11-01 19:27 [#00424477] Points: 5097 Status: Lurker
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 | Thanks for the info... Earth, Come now, can you really listen to Clipper off Trip
 Rep and say that it isnt very good?
 To be honest, I love every single Autechre release except
 for the Anti-Ep... it's pretty lackluster in comparison to
 most of thier work, but it does have its moments. I really
 hate the way song 2 starts.. ugh...
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-01 19:52 [#00424499] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | in interviews when asked on which format their music should be listened to, ae said that cd comes closest to the way
 they hear it when recording to DAT.
 
 
 
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:54 [#00424503] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | what is DAT?  it sounds really advanced by the way you said that...
 
 
 
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         |  uviol
             from United States on 2002-11-01 19:56 [#00424505] Points: 2496 Status: Lurker
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 | it means digital audio tape, right??  I had no idea until very recently.  i always heard the term thrown around too
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:59 [#00424508] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | tape?  digital tape?  and this sounds better than cd?  so like why don't they sell music on DAT?  sure make a DAT
 player too! :)  why not?  id buy it for sure
 
 
 
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         |  Amonbrune
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-01 19:59 [#00424509] Points: 7327 Status: Addict
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 | tape?  digital tape?  and this sounds better than cd?  so like why don't they sell music on DAT?  sure make a DAT
 player too! :)  why not?  id buy it for sure
 
 it would be super underground
 
 "Pfff...cd?  i listen to my music on DAT"
 
 and then run off snickering :)
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-01 20:05 [#00424517] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | DAT has a much bigger range than cds, talking frequency-wise.. :)
 
 what they more or less ment, was that if you listen to ae on
 cd you more or less hear it the same way they heard it when
 making it.
 
 
 
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         |  CORTEX
             from Canada on 2002-11-02 01:51 [#00424810] Points: 3346 Status: Regular | Followup to qrter: #00424517
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 | i dont get why this would make DAT better though.  as long as the frenquencies that range from 20Hz to 20,000Hz are
 covered, my human ears wont care for a wider range...
 
 
 
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         |  Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2002-11-02 01:55 [#00424811] Points: 1384 Status: Lurker
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 | not frequence.. sample rate.. cd is 44000 and dat is 48000.. this means the anolog wave form is chopped into 44000 parts
 per second.. dats are used that much any more with the
 advent of cheap harddrive recording
 
 
 
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         |  Cfern
             from Sacto (United States) on 2002-11-02 01:56 [#00424812] Points: 1384 Status: Lurker
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 | not used that is... 96000 is the new standard.... 
 
 
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         |  Paco
             from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-11-02 03:51 [#00424851] Points: 2659 Status: Lurker
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 | Most studios and pro musicians record onto DAT, which is then used for the cd-pressing. I was so close to buying one
 portable DAT a couple of years ago. Cost £799! I'm glad I
 didn't, CD-R is just as good at home. I quess the use of
 tape is more straight forward than burning onto disc.
 
 There are consumer DAT-players, but DAT is very much a pro
 music industry format.
 
 -P
 
 
 
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