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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 19:34 [#00413354]
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Does anyone else here get dissapointed if music doesn't
develope or build up? I'm asking, because many of friends
don't seem to mind if their music sort of...mingles
around....but I really like music that developes, maybe by
parts being added, volume/key/melodic changes, or other
ways.
One album I got recently was Out From Out Where by Anton
Tobin, and although it is technically better than anything I
could ever do, I disliked the fact that (many) tracks ended,
or seemed to end the way they began.
I'm the only person who feels this way?



 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-10-22 19:35 [#00413357]
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yeah, I like my music to develope and change, and all
that... I haven't heard the new Tobin album so I can't
comment on it yet!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 19:39 [#00413365]
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it depends.. there's no general rule, for me..


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 19:40 [#00413368]
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Oh...before any Tobin fans jump at my throat, I'd like to
say I admitted it is a very well-done album, but I just used
it as a personal example of many albums I've listened to
that were ruined for me by the fact many of the tracks
didn't build up....


 

offline Conformist from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-22 19:41 [#00413374]
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hrm. it's not IDM music, but I feel this way about
Meshuggah's new album... the songs are really good, don't
get me wrong, but for the most part, they don't really build
up or go anywhere, so that was a bit of a let down


 

offline bird from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 19:47 [#00413397]
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yeah, it does depend... But speaking of music that builds
up....
Jeff Buckley!! If you don't have any of his stuff, you
gotta get Grace. Its brought me together with people that
have completely different tastes in music.


 

offline Clic on 2002-10-22 19:52 [#00413405]
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I am with Qrter.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 19:52 [#00413408]
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I am right.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 19:56 [#00413410]
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Jeff Buckley..what style is he?

I love the surprise build ups and developements Aphex Twin
does in Druqks....likewise, the way Autechre changes things
over time in many of the Confield tracks....


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 19:57 [#00413413]
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well then gantz graf (the track) should be your cup of tea..


 

offline Clic on 2002-10-22 19:57 [#00413414]
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Hmmm... that sounds disappointing. I like Chaosphere, but it
kind of does the same thing.


 

offline bird from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2002-10-22 20:01 [#00413420]
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Jeff Buckley sang and played guitar. His music sounds
nothing like aphex twin or Autechre, but it is as amazing~
(some of the more poplular songs are Last Goodbye, Grace, So
Real )


 

offline Gubb on 2002-10-22 20:02 [#00413423]
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i have no problem with tracks that dont build up aslong as
they are good. i loften like my chill/sleep music as
monotonic as possible..


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-22 20:04 [#00413425]
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Hmmm....personally, I found gantz graf enjoyable but a
little TOO random...I'd prefered it if they had stuck with
the drum-beat-ish beggining and developed it rather than go
of in some weird sound spasm, but that's probably just me,
:)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 20:12 [#00413439]
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okay... lets get this clear... so you want development, but
godforbid, not too much..?

I think its safe to say 'random' doesn't apply to gantz graf
(or indeed most of ae's music)..


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-23 09:42 [#00414014]
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What I mean, is a general theme that is deveoped on. I never
said Ae's music was random, I just said I found granz graf
too random. So there is the drum idea at the
beggining...then, that isn't really expanded on (imo)...it
just goes off into some (admittedly fun) noise.

I think Orbital are good at adding layers into their pieces
till they reach a cool climax, or using other techniques
(such as most of the tracks on In Sides.)


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-23 09:48 [#00414031]
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the rhythm in gantz graf is being developed i think, it's
just not a regular beat anymore (i.e. listen carefully....)


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-10-23 09:48 [#00414032]
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I tend to like things that fall into a groove and stick to
it. No builds.. just timbres and textures really..


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-23 10:11 [#00414083]
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Anton Tobin?!?!?!

AMON Tobin

:)

i like different music for different occasions. sometimes i
like a build up, but sometimes i like stuff that doesnt go
anywhere, and more extreme then just Amon Tobin, but like
listen to some john cage. there is no harmonic movement. it
doesnt have like a chorus and verse... but it creates an
atmosphere, and i love that

personal preferences


 


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