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electro
from detroit on 2002-10-13 19:38 [#00402795]
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is this a live album?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 19:41 [#00402796]
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disc 2 is
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electro
from detroit on 2002-10-13 19:42 [#00402797]
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oh ok and the first one is all new stuff sweet thanx tits
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-13 19:46 [#00402799]
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Yeah, it's live... but it ain't Live at Leeds, that's for sure!
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electro
from detroit on 2002-10-13 19:47 [#00402800]
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japan as i,ve seen on cdnow.com no audio clips :S
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 03:21 [#00403021]
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I just got this and it's the first Squarepusher CD where I thought 'Fuck, This is shite.' I'm downloading first next time and try before I cry. I hope this album was out just to fill a void before great men records things... *trys to wake up* The live CD just made me shudder, very poor. *sticks a squarepusher sticker on his monitor and sighs*
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-14 04:37 [#00403039]
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in a couple of months time i bet the board will be full of "dyks is great!" topics ;-)
It's always the same... people didn't like druqks when it came out and the board was all full of "druqks is crap!" And now look... ;-)
I seem to remember quite some negative posts when geogaddi just came out aswell...
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-10-14 04:45 [#00403041]
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quernstone gets the spotlight out for Ophecks ;O)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 04:50 [#00403042]
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I've never said what I did just now about a Squarepusher CD. Track 1 - got it on vinyl, Track 4 - See the movie scum to cover the talking, the rest of the track is shit hot but I heard a live version of it a while ago so the edge is gone. my fault. The rest of the CD I could make in my sleep, it's hollow shit and I will never like it. When I first heard drukqs I loved it, this SP CD is nothing. Live (live?!) CD = dull pants.
I hope this was just to get Warp off his back. Love will tear us apart is so... oh whatever. *places CD2 on his left horn and spins it as he sighs* I'm not upset, I just feel so empty..
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-10-14 04:51 [#00403043]
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I liked Drukqs from the start, and I think DYKS is a great record!
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 04:54 [#00403044]
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I'm not being a dick but can I ask why you like it? Maybe i'm missing something. Two good tracks i've had for a while and the rest is crap IMO. CD2 is him playing tracks from go plastic off his hard drive, groundbreaking...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-14 05:01 [#00403047]
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some square pusher thinga are a little too jazzy for me ;))
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-14 05:10 [#00403053]
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well what don't you like about kill robok for instance? I really don't think there's much difference between that track and some of the better go plastic-tracks.
And i have to admit mutilation colony turns into crap after about 3 minutes... but the first 3 minutes (the first 3.16 minutes to be precise)... well... i just cannot imagine anyone listening to that and NOT finding it beautiful... seriously.
I agree with you on the live-cd though, that is ridiculous
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 05:31 [#00403070]
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Kill Robok sounds like nothing new. It's not enough to stand out. I could make a track like this but last time I did I got laughed at for making 'shit noise'. It can only be ok cuz it's SP but that don't cut it for me. It's hollow. :/ may be down to taste. Blips and echo, nothing great.
It's just empty. If the first track wasn't a vinyl I already had, the second CD just wasnt there and it was sold for £6-£8 i'd not be so upset. The design was the best part of the album but stickers don't cost £12.
A live album of him doing something new and actully giving a shit rather then taking the piss would be nice. I'd hate to upset tom so i'm guessing this whole thing was a byebye warp and look out for me on men. hate to piss fans off but I have a lot of original SP CD's and vinyl and this one is the first where i've gone 'Is he fucking taking the piss?'. He may have more mad skilz then me but I also doubt he could chin me IRL, a offer i'd hold open. me and SP in the ring... bleh. It's all just wrong to me.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-14 07:37 [#00403122]
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well... i don't really know what to say anymore :-) I disagree with you, but i don't think it's possible to change your opinion of the music... it's a matter of taste.
But as a fan, i have to say Tom is not pissing me off with this release!
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-10-14 07:43 [#00403125]
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i do see where yopur coming from Spikee both with cd1 and cd2 .....
for me Angtreom is stomping live anbd the cd1 version is there "for completeness". I read a review that calls Ftrain and those non'drill tracks "sonic poemscapes" or something, and it that context... yes they work. Yer right about the opening track being hold hat cos it was a single... but what a single!
Now , the live stuff for me is old, yes... and not the what-we-want-live... ie live bass, old tunes etc but i think it has itàs own charm. On headphones, in the dark, when you out yerself at the shown .. or put yerself as Tom at the show, it soo works. The beginning of "boneville".. is awsome, Angstron is perfect )better on the summers web stream, though) ... my fucking sound is amazing... the way he stretchs "ià m the fucking daddy".. the end of "exploding.. " is class. Heàs havimng live fun using his relatively new digital equipment... heàs not there to play straight stuff or his back catalogue.. heàs Alive, for that moment. Thats the Squarepusher, man!!.... out on his own. I know what you mean but he dont!... thems the breaks!!!
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 07:45 [#00403126]
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Cool then. my copy is stuck in the toilet atm, bastard won't flush. }:>
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-14 07:49 [#00403127]
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As Spikee is offline, I'll have to try to fill them scaled shoes.
No, dude, the live disk is just weak. If I wanted to listen to Go Plastic from another room with japanese people shouting along, i'd put it on on my stereo, go to another room and play my copy of Iron Maiden's maiden japan simultaneously. And wouldn't have to pay 20$ or something for it.
The studio disc is almost OK. Providing you don't have "Untitled" and are not tired of his endless edits, backflips and filters . At some point it's all that there is and there is no much music. But, actually, these glitch/ drill tracks are quite decent.. However, Mutilation Colony (that 10 minutes long "ambient" piece) is just boring borinbg boring. He has no fucken idea where to go with all those sounds, and he just tries to impose some kind of narative on us. And his cover of JD is OK, but hardly essential.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-14 07:49 [#00403128]
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Ooops, he's here...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-14 07:54 [#00403131]
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agree with you for the most part. still, the live cd blew me away the first time i listened to it on headphones. pity it is predictable. and the production sounds shite to me...
mutilation colony: the first 3 odd minutes are quite cool (lacking in originality, though), the rest of the track seems pretty pointless indeed.
still it's a lovely addition to the go plastic era- he'll probably try new styles after this. at least we can't complain there isn't enough of these go plastic-y cds :)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-10-14 07:56 [#00403133]
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anyone hear his TJ and freinds stuff on LO Recordings?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 07:57 [#00403135]
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*wraps his tail around Mehos ankle* Hello. }:>
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-10-14 08:01 [#00403137]
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Hithere, Spikee.
NS: the first 3 minutes of Mutilation Colony (great name, tho) are quite pointless to me too, but it could be passable if he left it at that. No, he had to get into his "composer" mode, which I respect but he is just not yet too good with non-hierarchical composition. Or whatever they call it...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 11:42 [#00403262]
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anyone else notice the live cd is in mono? sounds like it anyway
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2002-10-14 11:44 [#00403264]
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Anyone know where you can get the track listing fotr the seccond cd?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 12:04 [#00403277]
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slsk.. one song is unknown, the others have titles
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nene
from United States on 2002-10-14 13:09 [#00403373]
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the unknown track is "direct to mental."
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 13:16 [#00403382]
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is that a fan title or was it released in some fashion?
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nene
from United States on 2002-10-14 13:20 [#00403383]
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I believe it was on the japanese version of "go plastic."
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 13:21 [#00403384]
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really? wow, thanks..
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nene
from United States on 2002-10-14 13:32 [#00403405]
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actually, come to think of it, I think it's from the track listing for the japanese version of dyks. the bonus track for "go plastic" was "hardcore obelisk." I got a little mixed up there, sorry.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-10-14 13:43 [#00403420]
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i was going to buy the album yesterday, but saw that it was 17.99.
fuck that.
its only an ep and a live disc.
why 17.99?
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-10-14 14:41 [#00403466]
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11.99 at the most.
warp records has some expensive ass stuff.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 14:44 [#00403470]
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warp cd's are expensive in stores and on warpmart cos they have to make up for all the people who don't actually buy the cd's.. if you want to complain to anyone, complain to the "pirates"
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 14:55 [#00403479]
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no, i don't know squarepusher personally! geez doesn't anyone know squarepusher here? i think that album fell flat if it was just intended to be like a want ad in a paper. "do you know squarepusher? have you seen my cat? would you like to purchase a 24-piece tool kit?"
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-14 15:32 [#00403524]
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what are you on about, tits?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-14 16:31 [#00403568]
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*looks at the title of the thread and new album*
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-14 16:37 [#00403573]
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yes, I did get the allusion to the title, and STILL was wondering what you were going on about.. ;)
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ward
from Cheshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-14 16:52 [#00403580]
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IT SUCKS........
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atapostol1
from United States on 2002-10-14 17:46 [#00403608]
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I think that song ankromm -4 song is pretty fuckin good
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-10-14 20:07 [#00403683]
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i like the ep, not groundbreaking but not bad either. i like all of the tracks except astromm feck 4 which i dont like too much. the main melody sounds like a newer version of 80s video game music.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-11-30 09:08 [#00462128]
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i totally love it the best album i heard this year, surely cd1 that is i only listened live cd once hehe
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-30 11:52 [#00462184]
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agree with you almost 100%..the only tracks that do anything for me areUntitled..ofcoarse..but that is well established...F-Train---just because I am in a Click Hop kinda Mood and this sounds like a SP doing Funkstorung/Prefuse73..not great but with offerings here it stands out....Kill Robok is better...not quite as directionless as the ambient tracks..
but that's about it..This is coming from someonewho's dug just about each and every track on each and every SP release...
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-11-30 12:11 [#00462198]
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I LOVED this release, it was one of the BETTER "IDM"/drum and bass releases this year
SQUAREPUSHER IS THE FUCKING DADDY!
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