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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-09 17:04 [#00385501]
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Waht exactly is the problem I'm not using the worlds fastest computer and have never/hardly ever found the site slow.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 17:06 [#00385502]
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bandwidth - we're eating bandwidth here. the messageboard alone is eating about 60 Gb / month. anyone into this business can confirm it's much - extremely much.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2002-09-09 17:07 [#00385504]
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60 GBS ..fuck me
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-09-09 17:11 [#00385508]
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Christ! Time to go text only! :-)
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-09-09 17:24 [#00385512]
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Yes, unfortunately even the smallest graphics, when downloaded millions of times, will eat up tons of bandwidth.
I'm sure this is probably a forgone conclusion, but you have optimized the graphics as much as possible, right Phob?
It's all those angled corners...nice, but they eat up bandwidth.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-09-09 17:26 [#00385514]
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Are you sure it's the MB traffic and graphics that are eating your bandwidth? I had a problem with joyrex.com awhile back where some russian aphex site was hotlinking my audio files and graphics.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 17:32 [#00385516]
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joyrex: the graphics are 100% optimized - everything in 16 colors gif - except for the temporarily header graphics.
we've been monitoring the site for a while now and tracked it down to the mb...
the huge amount of users are the main problem :-D
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-09-09 17:38 [#00385523]
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maybe its time to vote out some members and have a small elitist community having bland repetitive conversations we've already had 1 million times
lets call it "Big Brother 4"
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-09-09 17:41 [#00385527]
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ban them!! ban them all!!!!!!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-09-09 17:43 [#00385530]
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No just ban the Canadians, they use all the bandwidth anyway....
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-09-09 17:45 [#00385531]
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Would it help if we all stop using animated gifs?
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 17:57 [#00385533]
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Not in this case.
-P
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-09-09 18:04 [#00385538]
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phob if your gonna kill this mb dont forget to make a copy of the php's this mb rules...
by the way i know this isnt the right time to ask and i dont want to be a cunt (but i probably am)but if it aint to much work can i get the source of this messageboard im setting up a website w/ a messageboard and i really like this one..
does anyone here know any good premade php forums anyway
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 18:05 [#00385539]
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we'll migrate to xltronic.com - and so will this mb.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-09-09 18:06 [#00385540]
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gr8 ... so youl keep the round corners...
but wont xltronic use up to much bandwith as well?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 18:08 [#00385541]
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we're discussing on increasing the bandwidth as well as having a dedicated server.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-09-09 18:09 [#00385543]
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i'm still trying to figure out how he (they?) is (are) going to pay for xltronic if phobia's having problems with the bandwidth here. especially if xltronic is really going to have all those videos, which would be cool. maybe they found sponsorship from a company (warp? specific artists? who knows.. not our business anyway).
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-09-09 18:10 [#00385544]
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dedicated = just like smokehammer said???
wont that be mean and rude to other ppl
i think deleting older posts would help alot too.. but that isnt really nice
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-09 18:12 [#00385545]
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no... a dedicated server for the site means we're not sharing the server with other homepages/sites. we have our own cpu/hdd/whatever.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-09-09 18:13 [#00385546]
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IC...
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Centurix
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2002-09-09 18:29 [#00385553]
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Some of the animated avatars do get around the 100Kb mark...
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broken phillip
on 2002-09-09 18:29 [#00385554]
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well, in that case + others can be found here ..
some nice noise..
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diego
from Belgium on 2002-09-09 19:14 [#00385601]
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how about letting us host our own pix ? Many other messageboards are doing this and it works fine - and it will save you at least 60-70% percent of the traffic.
Dedicated servers are friggin expensive.
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Asche XL
on 2002-09-09 19:42 [#00385611]
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Then you have to pay for people constantly loading your pic which will be costly for you.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-09 20:49 [#00385645]
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the thing with graphics is that the pics all get cached in your browser so they don't eat very little bandwidth at all...
Even the avatars are no problem, as once you've dled em once, they stay on your computer & don't get downloaded again....
It's all the text that's a problem...whenever a thread chnaged, the entire text of the page needs to be resent...you can imagine how it adds up with all the well-deserved activity here....
Shit...I'm getting technical but just wanted to clarify how well designed this mb is...
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-09 21:56 [#00385685]
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I take it you've tried all the usual Blackmail, bribery,...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-09-09 22:03 [#00385694]
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The main page is a little fat ... my browser tells me it's 45KB of HTML, compared to 5KB to another board that I visit.
But that's a stock board and probably heavily tuned. I suppose it is a price we pay for the custom .nu board.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-09-09 22:17 [#00385701]
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I'd try optimizing the graphics even further - I bet those corner graphics could go down to 2 colour if you alised them rather then anti-aliased them, as they are 45 degree angles anyways.
Dedicated servers are great if you can afford them...cheapest I've seen is 99USD per month that offers 200GB of bandwidth, 20GB space, etc.
But who has 99USD per month to spend on a fansite?
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-09 22:29 [#00385710]
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Alternatively - There must be a way phobiazero could put a cap on the number he let's in.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-09-09 23:09 [#00385753]
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um.. when is the jump through hyperspace to xltronic actually happening..?
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-09 23:35 [#00385799]
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:} Anytime soon I think. Is this place slowing down or is it just me?
Must be something wrong Dr what's happening? It's alright everyrthing is under control. Well....
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-09-09 23:36 [#00385800]
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I'm not having problems.. and thats pretty amazing, because when this place gets slow its mostly me who gets it..
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-10 17:19 [#00386980]
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joyrex: it's adaptive gif's - so it only uses the actual colors from the graphics. if you see two colors - then only two colors are saved in the file.
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novocain143
from New York / long island (United States) on 2002-09-10 17:28 [#00386989]
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and id have to say this mb is the best ive ever seen, so many of us... its up to the sec chatting here... got to love it. just say the word phob and well help ya out as much as we can...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-10 17:31 [#00386991]
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thanks!
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novocain143
from New York / long island (United States) on 2002-09-10 17:32 [#00386993]
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anytime... i just dont want to see any of this lost
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novocain143
from New York / long island (United States) on 2002-09-10 17:38 [#00387000]
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does this effect the rest of the site? i sent some custom artwork to ya probiazero... wondering if it could go up still?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-09-10 17:44 [#00387011]
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we'll try to manage all user contributions as soon as we got some time to fix it...
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