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okay I was thinking if we had a kind of a list where everyone's priorities lie in music it will be easier for us to judge what everyone's recommendations and tastes sound like..I have gone for 4 rough categoires..and I will order them in my order of preference..feel free to shuffle it around to suit your own tastes 1.Experimentation (structureless/formless/abstractions etc) 2.Innovation (cuttinng edge studio wizardry knob twidling etc) 3.Beats 4.Melody |
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1.melody and beats 2.innovation 3.experimentation |
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emotion |
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I like to hear music that requires musical talent to perform/create and isn't just a rehash of other stuff. |
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beats and melodie =) |
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and hot chicks of course ! |
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I don't know... I think a blend between melodies and experimentation. I like guitars and nice vocals and stuff, but not in a heavy metal or punk sense... too predictable. More like the Beatles using guitars and melodic sense and all that in something like ''Rain''... BUt with weird lyrics, the strange ending with reverse singing, mixed with the awesome singing and chorus... it's catchy but has it's own quirks. Radiohead, too... memorable songs that aren't too weird but are NOT ''normal''. I'm not too into the formless stuff. The Beatles (again... I know I'm bad) blend catchiness with psychosis in I am the Walrus, that's how I like my experimentation. I want some songwriting to temper the madness. Beats... well, they're an afterthought, but I like alot of music that centers itself around creative percussion. But I like songwriting first and foremost. |
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thats kinda a crap list.... what makes u buy cds? 1 artist name 2 heard good reveiws 3 nice cover 4 right genre 5 recommended by other people 6 other.... |
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I'm with Xanatos... emotion... every time |
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melody innovation beats experimentation |
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actually..my idea was that once you are past the hype and the packaging... |
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innovation with a little melody. i like how you managed to make 4 good catagories. couldntve done it better myself. |
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oh right sorry.... its still too hard for me to answer |
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Whether it sounds good or not. Nothing else. |
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1: Melody 2: Experimentation 3: Innovation 4: Beats |
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I don't like it when people say beats are everything...i mean i don't know. not to put them down just...theres more to music to me |
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I know what you mena ..I like my beats..fucked up with plenty of Experimentation and Innovation..other wise they can be boring.. |
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depends on my mood |
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Minimalstic STUFF, with lotsa bleeps, bloops, crr, pff, shhh, uhhh, sounds ! |
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hmm..we will call it Experimentation and Innovation then |
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Shouldn't it be what do you listen for? :) dunno if i can put a hierarchical structure to it. beats higher up than melody, sometimes experimentation, although i generally think innovation ahead (only by a whisker) of experimentation. Two parallel hierarchies if you like. A1. Beats............... B1. Innovation A2. Melody............. B2. Experimentation Tho any of these if really good can act as trumps? |
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complexity structure dynamics tone uniqueness beats innovation experimentation aesthetics |
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1) Emotion 2) Inovation 3) Melody 4) Beats |
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wow i said a mouthful =þ |
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Emotion is first...... If you are thinking about proggraming skills, levels etc. ther's somethnig wrong. emotion. that's all you need. Everyone that copies AFX or AE suck. Why emulate? it's so cheap. everyone can copy. do something personal. |
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most wise |
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perhaps though, these elements are an attempt to (as impossible as this is) reduce emotion to components - and see what components in general have the greatest effect. ie. what sort of stuff gives you the goose bumps? is it (in general) something with wicked beats, or a nice melody - or both?! |
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1. emotion 2. melody 3. tecnique 4. beat 5. complexity |
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1. Melody 2. Beats 3. Emotion 4. Innovation 5. Experimentalism... innovation and experimentalism isn't that important to me... I don't really look for it at all... if it's there, fine... |
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firstly the piece should be catchy and re-listenable from the outset... further listens to it uncover the true emotion of the song |
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invoking feeling. |
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1.Melody 2.Beats I really don't care if it might be similar to something else or if it's not experimental. I just care how it sounds. |
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emotion just because it doesnt have a beat... or its not innovative... doesnt mean it isnt good. Dont limit yourself... there is alot of beautiful music out there... but things that catch my attention are beats, and sounds. A sound that is unfamiliar is great. I guess that falls under programming... Melody is good... but I dont like too straightforward of a melody... well.. at least most of the time. And it its there, I like it real simple. I like minimalistic harmony. At school, we learn all these crazy harmony techniques etc... but I just dont like them. Its too much. so uh... yeah. And things that I usually dont like are singing and rapping. Unless its in the right context (come to daddy, milkman, windowlicker, untitled, red hot car, the messed up stuff of prefuse73... these are all good). Im just not a fan of straight ahead singing/lyrics. Unless its like the Beatles or something. Vocal samples are good though. Like BoC stuff... little clips of people speaking etc... so yeah. |
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and innovative stuff is always good... as long as it has emotional purposes... not just doing something wierd for the heck of it. And stuff that sounds unique... thats a really broad statement. To my parents... all my music sounds alike. To me... all thier music sounds alike. Theres a fine line... of course if someone can be very unique and good... thats great... but I think alot of people we credit with being very unique... arnt as unique as we like to think... but blatent rippoffs or copy artists arnt cool. |
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hmm..I personally think emotions are overrated..for the genre we are discussing..if you are going into a composition creating songs to appeal to the emotions..it's just cheap and sensationalist..that's what the Elton Johns and the Eric Claptons were placed on this earth for..if on the other hand emotional tension arises as a natural part of the process out of an artist somehow managing to graft a piece of their mood and their self a that precise moment of creation..then it can be the most beautiful thing...to me that is the classic departure point..and what the makes the beauty and melancholy of some of autechre's work so much superior to BoC...I mean even the song titles of Ae are intentionally elusive and indecipherable..the packaging and graphics are sparse and minimal..and yet the material can be emotionally engaging..why?..because it hasn't been quantified and classified..and you can easily attach any emotion and feeling from your own experience to it.. |
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autechre is highly emotional i dont mean emotional in the sappy sense...like elton john but music needs to hit something deep within you autechre hits deep with in me... as does afx, BoC, squarepusher etc. |
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hmm..emotions that arise out of the collison of the elements I listed appeal more to me..than those artificially and superficially grafted on top...and I agree about the problems with compositional madness of classic trainign in music...I was learning the classical guitar(dont ask) and several other music theory courses..by the end of it I got so sich of it..that I couldn't bear to listen to lisen to anything remotly tonal...I ventured deep into machine noise based industrial...I have slowly made my way back and out of the wastelands..but I still struggle with digesting and producing melodies.. |
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hmm..emotions that arise out of the collison of the elements I listed appeal more to me..than those artificially and superficially grafted on top...and I agree about the problems with compositional madness of classic training in music...I was learning the classical guitar(dont ask) and several other music theory courses..by the end of it I got so sich of it..that I couldn't bear to listen to lisen to anything remotly tonal...I ventured deep into machine noise based industrial...I have slowly made my way back and out of the wastelands..but I still struggle with digesting and producing melodies.. |
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hmm..emotions that arise out of the collison of the elements I listed appeal more to me..than those artificially and superficially grafted on top...and I agree about the problems with compositional madness of classic trainign in music...I was learning the classical guitar(dont ask) and several other music theory courses..by the end of it I got so sich of it..that I couldn't bear to listen to lisen to anything remotly tonal...I ventured deep into machine noise based industrial...I have slowly made my way back and out of the wastelands..but I still struggle with digesting and producing melodies.. |
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hmm..emotions that arise out of the collison of the elements I listed appeal more to me..than those artificially and superficially grafted on top...and I agree about the problems with compositional madness of classic trainign in music...I was learning the classical guitar(dont ask) and several other music theory courses..by the end of it I got so sich of it..that I couldn't bear to listen to lisen to anything remotly tonal...I ventured deep into machine noise based industrial...I have slowly made my way back and out of the wastelands..but I still struggle with digesting and producing melodies.. |
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yikes.. |
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you can say that again.. |
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shit i enjoy listening to! |
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nobody said emotions are tonal. It could be a cheesey chord progression or some RND LFO granular tricks. |
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what exactly is a "chessey chord progression" b/c i know what a chord progression is, i just don't know what a "cheesey" one sounds like... erm... you must be some type of weird serial killer with 32 tities to go around ms. JivverDicker |
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my two 'tities' are perfectly formed young man. I know you know what cheesey chord progressions are, I've checked your music before. I prefer your hair like that quoth, your mullet was funny though! |
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I mmeant the seven tones..it just aint enough and hence soundscorny..mixed chromatics are better..but most of the cultures of the worlds have many tones in between the C and the D and the E |
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um... theres 12 tones man :) |
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and I REALLY REALLY REALLY disagree with the 12 tones not being enough, and hence sounds corny. maybe if you are looking at it from a begginers point of view... but man, it goes so much deeper. |
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