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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-13 05:03 [#00308007]
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hey, i remembered seeing in one of your pics you have a dr-202 drum machine...
i decided to get mine out, and dust it off, and mess around with it, today.
then i came accross something very interesting...
go the the drumnbass preset patterns... # 3.
its a blatent ripoff of Bleep Street by Squarepusher!
check it out!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-13 07:00 [#00308129]
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*alrighty: WILL DO*
thank you!
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-07-13 10:10 [#00308166]
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isn't it the one he got in the first place??? he used the preset for good that's sure
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-13 10:13 [#00308167]
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what do you mean?
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-13 11:04 [#00308195]
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He used that preset in the track...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-13 18:51 [#00308284]
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no...
beep street was released before this drum machine...
and even if it wasnt... the drum sounds that []P uses arnt the ones on the drum machine... his are much better... and better detailed
no, when the guys at Boss were making this drum machine, they definatly made this little preset with beep street playing in the background
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-18 06:23 [#00313840]
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ever check it out quoth?
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-18 06:26 [#00313850]
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yes i did... in fact i fucked around with it... it was quite cool :)
thank you again mr. zeus (god of all) !! =
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-18 06:26 [#00313852]
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hehe no prob!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-18 06:29 [#00313854]
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do you have a site that is not a .mp3 or whatever? like just a personal one? w/pics of your music creation lab mr. zeus?
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 09:45 [#00314081]
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are dr-202s any good?
it's just PCM with some cheez-o filters and crappy onboard roland effects, right?
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-18 10:21 [#00314157]
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yeah good point, what are dr-202s like. ive got the sp303 sampler and i really like it, but what bout the dr202, its v.cheap, so i guess its not as good as mpc or something??? is it??
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:23 [#00314162]
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I've read some really awful reviews on it. er that's about all I know though, heh.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-18 10:24 [#00314166]
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squarepusher used a boss dr606....I had one, didn't like it, I can't use little screens
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flim-flam
from In a cupboard, in the kitchen. (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-18 10:27 [#00314176]
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Hey quoth...can I just say that judging by the photo, you're one hot guy!
**Snigger!**
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:30 [#00314188]
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b3n what kind of kit do you have?
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-18 10:31 [#00314193]
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so what is the best drumbox then...and how much? what do you guys use? i might get a MPC2000 when i get the money
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:33 [#00314198]
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dave_g : the best drumbox is probably whatever you're typing on right now. :p
I use a yamaha ry30...cheap as hell, and it's got a little bit of everything. not to mention plenty of realtime control (if you're smart...)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-18 10:35 [#00314201]
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a yamaha tx81z, novation bassStation and a yamaha cs1x...though i've just built a new pc so I can go more pc based..i'm also really into sampling old stuff, in process of sifting loads of vinyl I bought recently
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:36 [#00314203]
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hey I've got a tx81z in my little setup too :) what a fun little toy. a bit on the noisy side though. it's so cheap, I'm thinking I should get another one so that I have 16 note polyphony and 4 outputs :)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:37 [#00314205]
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I'm thinking of getting an iBook or something similar myself...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-18 10:38 [#00314208]
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I was buying another because I like it so much (I remember you saying you had one now)...i'm going to try mix fm with my sampled music, I need a reverb unit for it though
and its not a little toy :D
also, I LOVE that click that happens at the end of notes, its so perculiar
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-18 10:39 [#00314210]
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license: the thing im typing on now is a crappy school computer which runs at about 10MHz. the soundcard is quite frankly useless and it struggles to work with more than 4 windows at a time :)
but anyway i like doing stuff on computers, i use reason, but i also like to have something with swithces and buttons which u can press instead of using that damable mouse sometimes
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:41 [#00314213]
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yeah, and there's this funny thing it does when you play really low bass notes, it makes this kinda sifty treble noise.
you're right though, the thing's got character. :)
I'm actually trying to do exactly the same thing; I finally got a real sampler a couple months ago and I had this project I wanted to do, using basically just the sampler, tx81z, and ry30 as my sound sources. it's difficult to do though because I have all this visual stuff I want to base it around and it's more restricting than inspirational.
you have any samples of your stuff? I'd love to hear some.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-18 10:43 [#00314216]
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I'll give you some of my new stuff when I got some done, should be by start of next week
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 10:46 [#00314220]
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I agree...little boxes aren't as fashionable as they used to be, but they're certainly fun and more intuitive than a computer. if you want a beatbox, buy an ry30...I tell everyone this, and they don't listen. it's a great little machine if you can ignore a few of the dated early 90's rap/pop samples. very flexible - and by this I mean you could actually make whole songs with it.
don't knock old sound cards. my first "band" (in 7th grade) was a drummer and me mixing and running a qbasic program on a 286 which controlled the FM synth from a soundblaster. GREAT sounds, no joke. :) at any rate, work with what you got and get machines with CHARACTER!
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-07-18 11:01 [#00314245]
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it was something i read in an interview about the first drumachine he got, maybe it was the dr-606, i thought it was the dr-202... not that it matter at all.
luv beep street!
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-07-18 11:03 [#00314249]
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my friend got a tr-626, it's shitty azs hell but with little work you have many good old roland sound like 808/606 it's really the way you use it, now we couple it with a bass-synth pedal fom boss and it's like a tb-303, acid sounds really harsh and sweepy!
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 11:11 [#00314266]
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I have a tr-626 myself. kind of an odd machine, PCM but 10 outputs. the hi hats are nice, not real trebly but not unlike a 909. pretty much no real-time control at all, though it had great MIDI options. it's a bit ugly and way bigger than it needs to be, but yeah, with the right effects (and a decent sequencer, the onboard one leaves more than a bit to be desired) it can actually be a somewhat usable machine for [part of] a rhythm section.
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 11:12 [#00314270]
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oh wait I know the Boss pedal you're talking about... that thing was fucking cool, I loved it... where did you find one? are they still selling those?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-18 11:28 [#00314304]
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Have you guys with Drum machines tried using em with AudioMulch?...endless fun...Audiomulch is this real-time audio processing freeware that lets you do some amazing stuff....feed a DM into it & you can get some oustanding stuff to sample and then use whenever...
Recommended...even crappy casio keyboard rhythms can be transformed into IDM classics...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-18 19:31 [#00315057]
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quoth:
no i dont have any pics of my studio.
However... all the music I have written within the last 6 months has been on the software program called Reason.
I have: MC-303 synth Dr-202 drum machine SP-202 sampler Dr-770 drum machine Gemini 646 mixer
however im selling all of them... because ive grown out of them.
With the money i get from them, and saved up money i have, i intend on getting:
A G4 MAC with as much RAM as I can get eLogic Sequencing Software exs24 Software Sampler CSound Motu Audio Interface Reason 2
I really beleive that its all going software. Of course hardware has its benifits... but at the core of my studio... its all gonna be software.
Perhaps down the line, when I get a real job etc, Ill buy analouge stuff. But for now, this will be more then enough.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-18 20:41 [#00315119]
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i could possibly be interested in your SP-202... email me, ok?
I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THIS... i've got a job & i love to spend money... i'd give ya $150 for it... seriuosly.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-18 20:42 [#00315120]
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why thank you... me is flattered
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-18 22:47 [#00315292]
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audiomulch is a blast. it's the only software I used regularly (besides cooledit for sample editing), back when I was into software anyway. I used to do all my mixdowns in audiomulch.
hey I used to want one of those SP-202s. then I found an Akai S2000 for just as cheap. and I bought a minidisc recorder for field sampling.
Zeus : I dunno if I mentioned it before, but cSound is FREE. maybe you're talking about a front-end...?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-19 01:35 [#00315405]
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yeah, apparently there is several types though. I was talking with my teacher and he said there are free ones, and then ones that cost money.
I didnt ask the difference... I assume the one you have to pay for is better?
Quoth: ill email you by the end of tonight...
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-19 06:26 [#00315823]
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sweet :)
do you have any of those special sampling cards?
i will respond to this subject matter when i receive an email :) woo hoo!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-19 06:27 [#00315825]
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i dont have the memory card... :(
but if you want the sampler, ill email you the details
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2002-07-19 08:45 [#00315878]
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you can buy the memory cards from boss/roland or from shops like maplins.they are called "smartmedia" cards. i think the 202 can take 2 or 4 MB cards, but dont quote me on that.
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-19 08:51 [#00315882]
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Zeus : there's the original cSound, and then there are front-ends. the original cSound is basically a programming language into which you input all the opcodes (oscillators, filters, delay lines, etc.) for the "orchestra" and usually the "score" too (cSound's version of a sequencer, in a text file.) however, you can buy front-ends which have graphical icons instead of opcodes so that you don't have to look at lines and lines of code. this is how I understand it. I'd recommend that you try the text version first, just to get a taste of what cSound's about. it's free, man!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-19 12:35 [#00316095]
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I was kinda curious why you were thinking about csound as well...seems to be a lot more activity around MAX/MSP & Pure-Data (and it's various addons)...
but maybe csound is a good intro into that sort of programming...I know a lot of people don't like controlling software with textfiles; all my Ray Tracing work is done in POVRAY which uses em to describe a scene... front-ends are available to make the text file for ya, but as I'm a programmer & am used to it, I prefer to just use notepad...
The big plus point for textfile control is the ability to write programs that output the files....programs that create programs...that's really the key....
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-19 16:25 [#00316419]
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zeus:
i didn't get an email :(
me go cry now :(
btw, the smart media cards are a very very very rare kind... they're 3.5v & i think the only way one would find them around is by searching on ebay or something :)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-07-19 17:13 [#00316512]
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yeah, I was writing code (well, in QBASIC anyway..hehehe) before I was ever making music. my first musical creations were done in QBASIC with a Soundblaster FM synth.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-19 17:40 [#00316567]
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cool...programming like that is a bloody good way to get into track making & syntesis....
Look at AFX for example...he was doing loads of ZX81 & Spectrum programming back in the day....hence the huge number of references to them in his tracks/artwork...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-19 19:17 [#00316705]
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Oh, sorry, I wasnt clear with my last post.
I said I didnt have the memory card, and I meant to say, let me know if you still want me to email you anyways...
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-20 04:59 [#00317161]
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EMAIL ME, S'il vous plait! :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-20 05:00 [#00317162]
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ok
ill go do it now
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-20 05:15 [#00317167]
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youve got mail!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-07-20 05:18 [#00317170]
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no sir, YOU HAVE MAIL
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-20 05:19 [#00317171]
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no YOU have mail
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