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Songtradr promised to “continue to operate Bandcamp as a marketplace and music community with an artist-first revenue share.” According to Songtradr’s own announcement, it will offer artists “the ability and choice to have their music licensed to all forms of media including content creators, game and app developers and brands” including Epic Games, which will continue to collaborate with Bandcamp on projects like Fortnite Radio. |
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hmmmm sketchy. more assets being concentrated in fewer hands |
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Life is sketchy |
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can't it be unsold? |
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we could buy it, together, how much each of you got? |
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i was thinking about that. apparently they let themselves be bought because they needed scaling capabilities. and i think xlt has some server capacity to spare, as it's not too busy these days. in other words: a perfect plan |
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If Xlt bought SoundCloud I would so go in almost all in on my retirement t and monies and be a part of that |
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Do you think it's possible to sell my bandcamp account? |
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[reply to thred] i actually had no idea tim sweeny owns it. he generally seems alright but i suspect he saw the writing on the wall; thot, "alright, now is the time to sell" and it was likely the correct business decision, but it will go about as well for bandcamp as it will for someone sold to a gulag as a prostitute. [background for reply to reply to thred] i've kept thinking, recently ~ "i should just make up my own store page. i have loads of circuit bent shit i've long bored of and want it for a benjamin? sold. sort of like a garage sale frozen in amber, for anyone who wants perfectly good stuff i'm not using just let it sit there no rush. not like fucking ebay" [reply to reply to thred]i could also, actually, set up my own personal bandcamp-ripoff mini-size. could theoretically do everything bandcramp does -- the preview streams, purchase, choice of download. why does no one do this? [answering my own rhetorical question] because bandcramp is/was a loose community of sorts [crabby]and the icons appear for support and i've long squinted and said "if everyone just buys each others' shit who makes money except bandcramp?" and if it were just a paypal form people wouldn't buy each others' stuff like that and paypal wouldn't rinse the fees like the same dollar turning over repeatedly on bandcramp and [i've lost my train of thought because i have another good question and answer it NOW!#!] fuck. what's a good paypal replacement too? [that reminds me] [ubuntu] i'm ready to bludgeon mark shuttleworth with a scottish toilet |
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i'm trying to comment my source code more |
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I liked it. Looks neat. |
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not knowing how to advertise my music as stock library, i kind of like the idea of selling rights for other media. this could be a benefit having it on bandcamp. is it safe though? who gets the lionshare? and do i have a say in what it is used for? imagine your pumping 80´s track being used for the military recruiting campaign, trumps run for president or anti abortion laws. |
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there seems to be no change in terms of use that i know of, but its a loooong time since i last read them. |
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just having a closer look The online independent music platform Bandcamp — the single best place to buy digital music, in my humble opinion! — has just laid off 16% of its staff, and announced that it had been sold from Epic Games to Songtradr, a "music licensing, sonic branding, social media, and compliance management" company that handles music "for content" and "monetization." alright, this is like -- fuck you with not just a horsecock, but an entire horse. the idea here is obviously, "people are getting AN ENTIRE DOLLAR PER SONG on bandcamp; we're letting money sit on the table by not forcing them into the spotify business model, in which only taylor swift gets paid for re-recording all her songs because profit" i think i might delete most of it because.... eventually, it'll be like WE UPLOADED ALL YOUR SHIT TO SPOTIFY TO HELP and you have to "opt out" to stop this from happening and it will quietly sneakily happen one day just like when i discovered youtube had turned on "allow sampling for $$ youtube profit" on all my vids somewhere in the dead of night and not only do i have to remember to keep an eye on this, but they tend to drop it like "ON BY DEFAULT" so there's a brief legal window where they can fucking thieve all your shit and best delete it. on the note of youtube -- 2024 will be a sad year |
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not knowing how to advertise my music as stock library, i kind of like the idea of selling rights for other media. this could be a benefit having it on bandcamp. is it safe though? who gets the lionshare? entire teams of incredibly expensive lawyers have had very serious conversations about how to quietly fuck people who think like you out of the rights to absolutely everything. you'll get "paid" $0.07 and this won't meet the payout threshold so according to terms of contract they just pocket all of it. and give some to taylor swift to demonstrate they actually pay artists |
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steve aoki said something like, "there's plenty of money in music, it's simply the artists who don't get paid" benny fucking hana |
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a yo oki annie well, thats precisely what im afraid of not that im making any money anyways, but it would be said if it went that way, since i deem bandcamp as one of the best ways to get a fair cut for musicians and indies. |
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Discord should buy Bandcamp and integrate it so each artist gets a server with bonus material etc., and fans get tiered access for buying music if fans buy nitro they get to use special artist stickers and emojis and the artist gets a cut |
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beck put out an album years ago that you could customize with stickers dumbass |
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Ah! So a successful artist has already set a precedent. Even more reason for Discord to buy Bandcamp. |
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this is a slightly better idea than giving it to elon musk |
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yeah, laugh it up. i feel like tony is actually just some rich kid republican; not a communist at all. simply flaunting his education. knowledge of marx; capitalism. pearls before swine rdj himself commented something like, "it used to be, 'maybe if i work really hard i can get some good gear and support myself that way' and that's gone now." and you can get behringer 303 as kind of a consolation prize but the real price is time; expenses are such that i cannot realistically pour myself into it like i so deeply want to and not have my ass thrown out on the street. then i have the audacity to be like, "well so what that's how it is i guess, could someone just ship me a 16-track tape, no questions asked? because you'd get better stuff out of me" and no fuck off. and when discord finally monetizes shit tony danza will be crushed under the ocean like ham harding |
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is tony the flashbulb? because didn't the flashbulb have a fucked-up republican family? or... who else is canadian and would rely on this bullshit architecture to sell... tim exile? but no perhaps just a trust fund brat |
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lol Epic I'm sorry for jerking your chain about Discord, it's because you always have these boutique concerns, it's pure tokenism. Yes Discord is "bad" because they want to make a profit and they'll eventually turn on the users or sell out to Microsoft or Facebook or whatever. So what? That's everything, ever, always, under capitalism. Same thing with your concerns about burritos, Linux distros, GPUs and so on. You don't get the underlying commonality: that everywhere and always under capitalism, the practical use of a product by the end user is at war with price and profit. This is why every consumer product is beshitted over time. Shrinkflation, planned obsolescence, locking previously free features behind a paywall, big fish eating little fish and destroying the practical value of the little fish's product, privacy violations, etc. etc. And the reason you have no time to create with your ever shittier toys is because time is money. Your time is where excess profit is extracted at the other end, where goods and services are produced. Periodically the workers must be terrorized by high interest rates and high unemployment and fear of homelessness. Unpaid overtime? No problem, boss! The whole racket is based on squeezing you, the wage slave, at both ends. And it's not about morally bad companies making bad decisions. The companies that don't do this, that don't grow and merge, disappear. Commercial Darwinism. Capital accumulates, wealth concentrates. Everything I know about Marxism I got from used bookstores and pirated texts from libgen. Please for the love of dog |
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really good little on that document |
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And the reason you have no time to create with your ever shittier toys is because time is money. Your time is where excess profit is extracted at the other end, where goods and services are produced. Periodically the workers must be terrorized by high interest rates and high unemployment and fear of homelessness ...and what are you doing about it, other than telling me i'm fucked in a condescending, academic manner? same as how RDJ ruminates in some interview, "it used to be, 'maybe if i work really hard i can get some good gear and support myself that way' and that's gone now." and he's sad and showing solidarity while still collecting checks i mean, i get the concept of value creation. it worked before, i think, because there was value to me in creating music, sharing it. bending things, posting videos, seeing it show up on matrixsynth. it felt like it might go somewhere someday, but underneath it all, i met a lot of cool people who talked with me just normal back and forth and came to appreciate my stuff. but that feels kind of dissolved into miasma now, as does the idea that my stuff will get anywhere. i suspect people do value my music, art, writing, code, whatever, some of it -- but they have no money to support me on it and so, like, i haven't quit music, but why bother sharing it with anyone? enjoy the end of the internet you smug prick. rdj will have all the money but he'll have to spend all day jerking off because everyone else entertaining has packed up and left |
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https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/why-the-i nternet-isnt-fun-anymore |
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I HAVE SO MUCH MORE and who cares like here is it is one of those three-stage dimmer lamps. touch the metal bird anywhere to navigate the riced out state machine: off, low, mid, hi, off, lo, mi, hi i found that bird at the town dump. it was a sad pewter peacock that was mysteriously missing the head. i live in a sort of augmented reality, and i saw a light bulb superimposed onto this crap headless pewter peacock and i'm telling my dad i'm going to make a bird lamp and putting it in the car before he can even process what is going on. then it took me, perhaps, five or six years to actually fucking do it, but IT IS PERFECT. i went to no less than six thrift shops and bought as many lampshades. it was so hard to find the right one. then soft lighting and photographed it next to a luke vibberts record for my Riced Out Modern Living line. the lamp sold for like $300 to someone i chatted with online who absolutely loved it to death and this is how art is supposed to work: it's a stupid idea that i eventually got around to despite all spazzy odds, it's really not worth $300, i probably put $3000 of time into it, and everyone is thrilled to death with the situation. but now something something etsy free ship or banhammer and ye gods fuk^ov |
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if i could just follow my heart i have two (2) broken [broken] korg monotron delays because i'd rinse them hard as aux sends all day and they're small and break. and, dammit. now i have two broken ones. and i miss that as an aux send so bad. and it would be worth the hours of cursing into a magnifying lamp to bodge these two broken ones together, there's space and a power supply inside my spring reverb driver [with steiner-parker synthacon filter feedback loop] then i have two reverb tanks loafing about. and i could.... that thing with some vhs tape and a schmitt trigger and i would slam trax with that frankenstein and it could sell for $2k. but that's a month and a half and the money is too slow. and i guess writing video software is ok but wouldn't the world be nicer if i could build my infernal machines instead? oh well |
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nothing to do with bandcamp |
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HOW SUSPICIOUS! the mit technology review rehashing my posts, a week later The internet also exists outside these big platforms; it’s blogs, message boards, newsletters and other media sites. It’s podcasts and Discord chatrooms and iMessage groups. These will offer more individualized experiences that may be wildly different from person to person. They often exist in a sort of parasitic symbiosis with the big, dominant players, feeding off each other’s content, algorithms, and audience. then we get to something else i said that someone else said: Anil Dash has been repeating the same thing over and over for years now: that people should buy their own domains, start their own blogs, own their own stuff. And sure, these fixes require a technical and financial ability that many people do not possess. and alright this is fair, he seems to have the drop on me here by a few years. it's mostly that i was lazy and i stuck with bandcamp until i felt my ears pop from the other shoe starting to drop |
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Wowww Epic A mere 175 years after Engels wrote The Principles of Communism, visionary geniuses like you and Anal Dash are fumbling towards an appreciation of the importance of ownership of the means of production. 👍 |
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is it just fun to run the discord? what are your motives? how are you anything over than the hallucinogenic spores that cause people to wander into the mucus cave as docile sheep? [cite: x-files 6x21] big had it right fussing around with federated stuff if you want to construct a life raft. but did you read the article? The big idea is that in a future where social media is more decentralized, users will be able to easily switch networks without losing their content and followings. “As an individual, if you see [hate speech], you can just leave, and you’re not leaving your entire community—your entire online life—behind. You can just move to another server and migrate all your contacts, and it should be okay,” so it's like discord except without tony in charge, i guess -- doesn't that sound so much better? or maybe you're more like princess leia leading everyone down the garbage chute into a trash compactor? and the only thing that saves thad from being tentacle lunch is that whatever that thing was, it has more of a clue than... i guess princess leia didn't comprehend that 200 year-old economic texts may not actually apply to the internet; that trying to jam a billion people into a twitter or a facebook was always doomed. that people need to run a bunch of servers, or it needs to be $$ to pay for the servers, and in the gap, i dunno, i guess princess leia wants to be queen of The Sharper Image at the mall and imagine living your whole life in there as a sort of purgatory 2025. discord will be fucked in or by 2025 youtube: early 2024 |
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bandcamp will throw the shit lever approximately one (1) business year after epic sold bandcamp [best practice in the tech industry is to digest a recent acquisition in the belly of the sarlac for one (1) business year and determine what, actually, you've gotten yourself. you reassure everyone that you really actually will leave it as an independent unit. then, precisely a year later, changes are announced. people are scrambled into separate existing teams, or perhaps even let go (but that's typically 2-4 quarters later)] even if it kills them -- like, they are so fucking balls to the wall with that, it might kill them, they'll see it killing them, and they STILL will not give that shit up until The Year Of The Linux Desktop is like "Hey, wait... you're not kidding?" but i think mark shuttleworth wants to IPO 2024, which puts ubuntu's enshittification a year too early to capitalize on the (partial? total? narrowly dodged?) collapse of the windows ecosystem. what's the right value model for ubuntu? whatever looks good for an IPO while i'm reviewing The List -- i have a new addition!! wordpress is fucking over. wordpress can fuck off |
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"microsoft will move to a subscription model in 2025, even if it kills them" there are some bold problems for the board |
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and some bird problems for the board as mermaid contemplates his upgraded reality, courtesy of riced out industries |
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that 200 year-old economic texts may not actually apply to the internet lol Epic, everything you've written about Discord, Bandcamp etc. testifies that they do apply, at least in the case of texts by Marx and Engels. They do, in fact, apply more urgently now than when they were written, when capitalism was still emerging. You still don't seem to grasp that I agree with every one of your criticisms, but that these are merely particular cases. All you're doing is yelling at one or two squiggles on the tattooed man. |
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video is hard, tho like, words. take words -- they're cheap. one could say, "why should i pay a subscription fee to write content for medium.com when wordpress can send me emails about itself all day and try to sell me premium plugins?" re-encoding video into a giant fan of technically specific tiers, gauging someone's connection and pairing them up with the right level, then -- OUCH the bandwidth in this sense, youtube may be unkillable, simply because unless we call go fucking UUCPtube and everyone pitches in with their spare 900mb of fiber, i do not see any reasonable decentralized solution. like, you can't build a football stadium by putting a part of it into the garden of every citizen in town. you have to build it all at once have you ever thought about the carbon costs of streaming? taylor swift is putting a goatse-grade hole in the ozone layer; people streaming re-recorded versions of old songs over and over and over when they could just download the song once. or, ideally, not listen to it at all |
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All you're doing is yelling at one or two squiggles on the tattooed man. WHY IS DISCORD A GOOD IDEA AND NOT THE DIGESTING X-FILES MUCUS? just answer that, big and bad |
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also marx lived like a typical xltronicon : In his private life he is a highly disorderly, cynical human being and a bad manager. He lives the life of a gypsy, of an intellectual Bohemian, washing, combing, and changing his linen are things he does rarely. He likes to get drunk. He is often idle for days on end, but when he has work to do, he will work day and night with tireless endurance. For him there is no such thing as a fixed time for sleeping and waking. He will often stay up the whole night and then lie down on the sofa, fully dressed, around midday and then sleep till evening, untroubled by the fact that the whole world comes and goes through his room. ... There is not one clean and solid piece of furniture to be found in the whole apartment: everything is broken, tattered and torn; there is a thick coat of dust everywhere; everywhere, too, the greatest disorder. |
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i had a livejournal but some people on livejournal had their own journal sites and i was like THAT'S SWANK and so at 16 my first proper actual thing with PHP was my own blog software. which, actually, would still work fine! ...but wordpress was not always such a monster. it offered stuff like [a GUI editor when i wrote HTML, a comment system linked to inter-site troll platform, and akismet anti-spam to dial the comment system back into a usable state] and alright it seemed fine to me as little as a few years ago, but i go in now and it's all a horrible broken mess of "subscribe to premium" and, well, that's a tempting thought! but i think i will actually take this whole platform out back and shoot it because my shitty PHP i wrote in high school is actually more secure He likes to get drunk. He is often idle for days on end, but when he has work to do, he will work day and night with tireless endurance. see, this i get. very me. i think i might get drunk tonight and code a wordpress replacement [for my own purposes; nothing fit for public consumption] |
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For him there is no such thing as a fixed time for sleeping and waking. He will often stay up the whole night and still with marx here then lie down on the sofa, fully dressed i would never fucking sleep on the sofa. marx and i are at odds now around midday and then sleep till evening well who doesn't untroubled by the fact that the whole world comes and goes through his room ...and, oh, shit. this is not me. this is the guy who i was roommates with in college who never showered, or cleaned, and just wore boxer shorts and a t-shirt and people would be looking at him weird and i'd think "oh right they're not used to that" i clean things up. i have ordered zones [including zones for disorder]. people stay the fuck out of my room. i dropped acid and got depressed about the church-turing thesis; the other guy had some cute girl come over to help dye his hair and then she flipped a shit and kind of ran off and his hair looked weird for... well, the rest of that college year. and that's marx vs. me i hope this helps your simulation of xlt |
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how do i cut paypal out of the loop? from the dark ages it was like "something something shell out for a merchant account" but effectively is it still possible to process credit card payments without PayPal or Square or (coming soon!) Everything Payments on The Site Formerly Known As Twitter i mean, then i wouldn't be able to accept paypal. but not having to pay, or think about, paypal's shit, that sounds great then you're set up on that; you've some URL to ring people up and the rest of it can be whatever the fuck you want but the dark age neurons tell me this "merchant account" was like "something something setup fee $1k" and well, now that you mention it, i still don't have a plan here, and that was the early 00s i was reading this with no plan like it would actually make sense someday. it's not naive hope, it's more like some idea for a modular patch you never quite have a reason to execute |
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WHY IS DISCORD A GOOD IDEA don't care lol. You know why we settled on Discord when Zilty was down for weeks at a time? Only because Umbro had already made one, and because it did the job. You have a hate boner for Discord solely because people gained the ability to mute you, and were doing so, and saying what a relief it was. And since you're a big dumb narcissistic baby who can't handle that, you're jerking off about cyber liberty like Wired magazine circa 1997. Sad! |
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OSX's Chess.App has also just made the list. Chess? Does it have a computer oppo- and, shit, it's asking me to sign in? I try to abort, but now I am signed into Chess.App with my Apple account, and I cannot figure out, for the life of me, how to log back out of Chess. Does this mean I am logged in elsewhere in OSX? Have I just consented to all sorts of data sharing because I opened fucking Chess.App and didn't have the sense to Force Quit as soon as I saw a login? At this point, I am just kind of quietly: you fucker, you fucker. The point I got properly annoyed was when I realized how impossible it is to simply delete Chess.App. It may even been a signed component of the OS and if I go in there with Kali linux and a brillo pad and manually scrub the bits away it will probably just be like INVALID SIGNATURE REINSTALL OSX checkmate. fine. have it. still beats windows tony i don't understand why you bring up discord in all of my threads. nor why you can't answer a simple question: WHY IS DISCORD A GOOD IDEA? i'll wait until after your chai enema if you need a moment |
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