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         Beating The Prisoner To Death
             from the world on 2001-10-25 02:25 [#00045192]
        
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I just want to know who here thinks Drukqs is Afx's best?
 
  
         
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         Beating The Prisoner To Death
             from the world on 2001-10-25 02:36 [#00045193]
        
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well?
 
  
         
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         Jeremy kwhy
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Even Phobiazero doesn't rate DrukQs!  This not his best  album,  he's trying too hard.  These 'experiments' have been  done 40 years ago.  preparing a piano was punk 50 years ago,  now it's lame.  Hopefully Richard will do something cool  soon or the myth has gone.. 
 
  
         
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         Beating The Prisoner To Death
             from the world on 2001-10-25 02:46 [#00045195]
        
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how can u say that?  Drukqs is great.  I never heard  anything like the tracks on that album.  Its artistic, fun,  cool, and great to listen to sober and high.  
 
  now, i know you have your opinions, but I think Drukqs is a  great release.  I know it isnt his best, but then  again...its comparing drukqs to another cd.  whats your  favorite Aphex album?  then we'll compare. 
 
  
         
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         Beating The Prisoner To Death
             from the world on 2001-10-25 02:54 [#00045196]
        
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  How come no one likes Drukqs?! Everyone's all like: "Its not  a good Afx album. Aphex sucks now. I hope an error occured  while making the album!" 
 
  
         
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         beetlebum
             on 2001-10-25 03:04 [#00045199]
        
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chill bitch
 
  
         
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         FreakyNinoBrown
             from usass on 2001-10-25 03:08 [#00045203]
        
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a lot of the songs sound the same...still it holds some of  my favorite aphex tracks...and why does everyone refer to  aphex twin as afx?...i thought they were 2 different  projects 
 
  
         
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         Lazerus Johnson
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i like it. it is good for the most part...the chopped up  drums gets really old though...i like the piano and melodies  alot...I realize that richard is an incredible musician, and  the album shows his talent, but it doesn't really cross any  boundaries...By the way, I think that Gwely Mernans is close  to the best song on the album...It has great character...I  just mention that, becuase I know some people here don't  especially like it... 
 
  
         
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         1010-1111-10
             from St.John\\\'s Newfoudnland, Canada on 2001-10-25 04:04 [#00045218]
        
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In my honest opinion i think people are saying the stuff  about Drukqs because of the whole "oh he only released it to  get off warp". Well who cares I dont care if he released it  so that he could get a couple of bucks to go out and get  shit faced. Let the man have his intentions, and let us have  his music. 
 
  
         
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         DblHeLX
             from moon on 2001-10-25 05:08 [#00045226]
        
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aphex twin has never hailed or praised any of his own  albums.
  anyone basing thier drukqs oppinion off that comment dont  know aphex for shit. he has said that kind of crap in his  interviews for years.
  if youve actually listened to drukqs with an open mind and  didnt like it based off your own oppinion then thats fine.  but dont base your oppinions on what others say, ESPECIALY  WHAT RICHARD SAYS!
  he can be his own worst critic.
 
  
         
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         Baron Von Picklefoot
             from My special place ! on 2001-10-25 06:37 [#00045243]
        
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I worship the devil !!!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!
 
  
         
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         Archrival
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I dont think people understand how good this album is. I  mean name one better album that has been released in the  last 4 years? I think this is his best and most complex  album so far. 
 
  
         
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         DblHeLX
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thats your oppinion and mine also. but dont expect everyone to agree. at least right away.
 
  
         
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         The Dickhead Of Reason
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Yeah, let them come around, they have a different opinion to  mine, mine is right though, let them be, let them come  around, then they'll realise that their opinion is wrong  because it's opposed to mine..... 
 
  
         
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         DblHeLX
             from moon on 2001-10-25 07:37 [#00045256]
        
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wow, dick head thats very arrogant of you. if youre mocking me you are doing a poor job. people change  thier minds. its a fact.
  if they dont like it that doesnt mean they are wrong. thats  just thier oppinion.
  you deffinately read WAY too far into what i wrote.
 
  
         
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         Chrispy
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I agree with people that say it should'nt be this long but  its not a chore to listen to all the way through. It's  really fun to listen to. I dont care whether it's complex or  not. Those are some cool, fun sounds! I like it! 
 
  
         
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         chicken paste man!!
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we should all take in to consideration that no-one really  sets out to 'break new ground' when they write a tune.
  if they do - they are right  pretentious arty farty wankers  who should be lined up and shot.
  i think anyone who is dissapointed with drukqs has no-one to  blame but themselves for building it up too much. 
 
  
         
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         PostModernVancouver
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Lazares agreed, besides the lovely piano a la Satie  interludes < Gwely Mermans is one of the greatest pieces on  this album, its hauntingly beautiful and I actually enjoy it  a little more then the fast drill n bass stuff on there.(  not that I dont like the faster stuff but I just prefer  Aphex more haunting and pretty stuff).'
  I love Vorhdshorn and Meltphace 6 ofcourse and to a tiny  lesser degree Micheals Mix and Ziggomatic ( he does that  stuff well, no doubt , and still does it better then his  competition), but Gwely Mermans is on a whole other plane  altogether, I can play it over and over and not get tired of  it.
  Ah , sorry, but to the person who says that the album all  sounds the same , he obviously isnt listening properly, its  the most diverse album released by any artist these past few  years.
  from the fast to the bizarre, lullaby, to the piano pieces  and then some, the same>???
  This whole album skips from high to low and in between and  back, theres no consistency in the album musically at all,  so open thy ears to whomever says that its all the same.
  DRUKQS is the greatest album released by ANY artist these  past few years.
  Radiohead isnt bad, but no comparison to this album,  sorry.........this blows both Kid  A and Pyramid outta the  water IMO....... 
 
  
         
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         chicken paste man!!
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now...come on ... aren't you being a little sycofantic.
 
 
  
         
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         Ironlung
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Mt. Saint Michel Mix+St. Michaels Mount has got to be some  kind of 4th dimensional gift from the clouds...Could be one  of RDJ's best to date. 
 
  
         
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         Scary Bear
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I like it. I like Radiohead too.
  That is all.
 
  
         
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         THE DJ Bladdered
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I like the fast stuff slowed down - if you can get hold of a  deck with a pitch shifter, stick the fast on to -8; well  funkier like this 
  Aphex music - playable at any speed
 
  
         
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         balthus
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i like drukqs a lot. i think kid a is good. but if i had the  choice between drukqs and kid a i would certainly choose  drukqs. i have my opinions about kid a, it's stature and its  marketing, but i don't want to bother anyone with these  opinions. and i also simply don't want to act like people  here who say 'this is like that and i'm right and anyone  else here who does not think like that is a moron/wrong'.
 
  a friend of mine gave me kid a, i listened to it three  times, and then to some songs i liked, but after returning  the album to her, i don't feel in the need to buy it. but  drukqs really touches me like some of my other favourite  albums/music. i cannot change it that my other favourite  music is 20th century classical music and some jazz - with  exceptions in other directions in music, of course. and so i  rate drukqs as high as satie, stravinsky, schoenberg, reich,  glass, bley (etc). i also don't want to talk about things i  don't like that much endlessly. for me this is boring, it's  a waste of time.  
 
  
         
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         balthus
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cage never saw his first pieces for prepared piano as an  experiment. the first piece he did for dance, and there was  not enough room for percussion, so he prepared the piano and  made a kind of percussion ensemble out of it (that was  'bacchanale', in 1938, and it sounds as new now as anything  now). it's a nice sound, but it's only an instrument like  any other. why is music dated if the instruments are old?  new things in music are not depending on the  instrumentation. best example is stravinsky's le sacre du  printemps using a large symphony orchestra. it has a  complete different sound than the overblown late romantic  symphonies. or compare beethoven piano sonatas and satie's  nocturnes, schoenberg piano pieces, stravinsky's serenade  for piano, shostakovich's peludes and fugues, cage's dream  and philip glass' sathyagraha or etude no.1 for piano and in  the end john adams' phrygian gates. in all those pieces  there's the same instrument, but every piece sounds  distinctive from the other.  
 
  
         
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         Narkotic
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i just never thought i'd hear fucking piano pieces on a  goddamn aphex twin release, thats all. when i pop that shit  in i'm prepared to be amazed, not put asleep.. granted the  pieces are gorgeous, but they're just not RDJ.  
 
  
         
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         chicken paste man!!
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why do you say that? if you gonna make stupid comments like that, at least try  and explain yourself. 
 
  
         
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         fuck these musicians
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Narkotic, didn't you once say that SAW II was the first  Aphex release you got and at first you were like 'what the  fuck', but now you love it?
  Maybe this is one of those things...
  If not...what do I know. Oh yeah, I know I like drukqs a whole lot. That shit is  awesome! 
 
  
         
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         Narkotic
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First off.. I never said that I didn't love it. another  thing, how could I explain myself any further? all of this  just makes you look like sheep, following the herd. "oh,  aphex made this, so i'll love it regardless.". think about  it, if these minimal piano pieces and happy birthday songs  were released on some other no name artist, you would shun  the hell out of it. 
 
  my point is, this isn't directed towards any certain person,  is that people like this release, JUST becuase aphex did it.   
 
  
         
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         chicken paste man!!
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you said it just isn't rdj. explain that...and if you have trouble with that one, try  explaining to me what exactly IS rdj, as your statement  suggests that you knew this. 
 
  
         
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         Narkotic
             from Orange County, California, USA on 2001-10-25 17:24 [#00045456]
        
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maybe I should put it into smaller words. RDJ can't even  play the piano like that. when I think of RDJ, I think of  great electronic music, ambient, stuff that is just totally  abstract. not a total ripoff of a classical artist.  
 
  
         
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         Mr_Deft
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Aphex created his own prepared piano as a kid (without  knowing of Cage) but then, so did Boulez. I haven't actually  heard Drukqs yet, but when I read that there are 'jungle'  tracks, I fear for the cheese that may ensue, but with the  prepared piano pieces, I can't wait. Call me a sick  muthahubbard but one of my favorite tracks is IZ-US...  
 
  
         
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         Narkotic
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i love IZ-US
 
  
         
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         Transmission
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YEah...IZ-US rules... :)
  LrZ
 
  
         
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         Aktium
             from bat country on 2001-10-31 02:53 [#00047310]
        
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         Xanatos
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^ that's crazy. 
  IZ-US is amazing, and thats the kind of song I'm talking  about that drukqs lacks, that mind-blowingly beautiful  exclusively aphex shit which I crave so so dearly... 
 
  
         
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         balthus
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i love iz-us, and while listening to kesson dalef i had  immediately to think of iz-us.  
 
  
         
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         balthus
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i love iz-us, and while listening to kesson dalef i had  immediately to think of iz-us.  
 
  
         
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         balthus
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uh-oh, that's the first time that i'm posting something  twice... sorry. 
 
  
         
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         Fernz
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Drukqs is, for me, well worth the wait. It may not have many  "new" shit that we ain't heard before but WHO CARES? Be  greatful that he actually released anything at all! You have  your own thoughts about Drukqs but other people get  different things from it. 
 
  I thought SAW2 was fucking awesome but some Aphex Twin fans  prefer the more abrasive trax... he produces music for all  tastes! So please, dont complain. 
 
  
         
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