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Hedgeman from zurich-ch on 2001-09-23 15:15 [#00035624]



have a look at the soundtrack of A.I.!the coming movie by
Stanley K.

Autechre - the Egg
Autechre - crystel
orb - loving you live
polygon window - my teapot



 

`teapot. on 2001-09-23 15:21 [#00035625]



hey thats cool. my teapot is my fav aphex song... can you
tell?


 

yeah thats me! from Germany, nearby Munich on 2001-09-23 20:53 [#00035647]



if only the film would be interesting! I dislike him at all
- but I recognize that music, too


 

Mat from Birmingham, UK on 2001-09-23 21:36 [#00035661]



AI is an excelent film, if you haven't seen it do so!

i fear quite a few people won't "get it" though cos of the
crap audiences seem to like lately like pearl harbour... oh
well.


 

Jazzy Jeff on 2001-09-23 22:18 [#00035668]



A.I. was a shit film, and no I didn't like Pearl Harbour.


 

Barrett, Syd from T Dot on 2001-09-23 22:49 [#00035680]



Hedgeman, I'm afraid that A.I wasn't made by Stanley
Kubrick. You see, Stanley Kubrick died a couple of years
ago. He had the storyboards done i beleive, and obviously
alot that comes before that, but it was Steven Speilburg who
directed it.

I liked the movie myself. The Aliens I thought were really
really cool.

I haven't seen Pearl Harbour. I know it sucks, but I want to
see the 2nd hour of the film which is the attack. Cause it
looks really pretty.


 

thanksomuch from over thar on 2001-09-24 03:57 [#00035767]



i really liked that movie.. most people hate it....


 

Super Reflex on 2001-09-24 06:35 [#00035786]



No, most critics like it, most people are divided and most
dickheads say "I really liked it."


 

`teapot. from bwisbane on 2001-09-24 06:40 [#00035787]



im gonna go see it tonight and i bet i really like it.


 

Cocksucker on 2001-09-24 06:43 [#00035789]



I hope you sit on a needle and come out of the cinema
infected with AIDS.


 

`teapot. from bwisbane on 2001-09-24 06:44 [#00035790]



that would be lovely.


 

Vagina Warrior from the outskirts of Vagina City on 2001-09-24 07:28 [#00035810]



Lovely or Luidasasdasvly?


 

thanksomuch from over thar on 2001-09-24 09:18 [#00035830]



Super, you calling my a dick head? i like to think of myself
as a bitch, but i guess you are entitled to your own
self-centered, narrow minded opion, eh?


 

Horse on 2001-09-24 09:51 [#00035841]



"narrow minded opion"?

You mean "option" or "opinion"?


 

thanksomuch from over thar on 2001-09-24 09:57 [#00035844]



one thing you'll have to learn, horse, is that i can not
type for shite.. but i mean well...


 

balthus from europe on 2001-09-24 10:01 [#00035850]



almost no one of my friends liked the film. everyone had the
argument that it was kitschy and corny. well, i think it's
too easy to say the film was just crap, because there were
some really interesting (and creepy) scenes in it, which
were clearly made up of some original kubrick sketches...
joe finding the dead body of a woman, david talking with the
voices of a secretary and his dad's on the telephone, the
robots in the search of replacements for some of their
bodyparts, the damaged nannyrobot (who sings a french
nursery song to david) and the buildings of rouge city.
these scenes are a kind of fragments from a.i. by stanley
kubrick, and they made the movie really interesting. the
core of the final scenes was also part of kubrick's
treatment, but in a kubrick version, they would have been
equivalents to the final scenes in 2001. but, well,
spielberg made this film, and so he softened the scenes to a
level that they became in the end a kind of spielberg kitsch
á la e.t. the only thing is that these last scenes are -
even in the spielberg version - still kind of creepy,
because david, who is for his 'mum' a simulation of a son
who loves her, finally also gets his 'mum' back, in order
that she (or it) simulates a love for him. so, in the end
you have a typical very dark irony á la kubrick with
'artificial intelligences', which are only simulating their
love for each other (so david is just as lonely in the end
as dave in 2001). in the spielberg version, david makes some
coffee for his mum, in the kubrick version david hands his
mum, - which is (was) in fact an alcoholic - some gin.

it's really sad that kubrick died too early and could not
realize his movie. i wonder if chris cunningham, who worked
with kubrick on the design of david, would have some
influence on the music... it would be so fantastic to have
tracks from aphex's sawii in it (track 1 and 6 from cd 1 and
blue calx for the coney island scene), come to daddy (come
to daddy lord faulteroy mix, funny little man, is-uz, flim),
nanou (for the scenes in the apartment of the swintons), at
the heart of it all (from nin's further down the spiral),
some dark tracks from 'classics'. tracks by boards of canada
and autechre would have been great, too. and the (rouge
city) waltz in this music would have been from richard
strauss' 'rosenkavalier'.


 

Maytag on 2001-09-24 11:12 [#00035853]



Close Encounters of The Third Kind is a much better movie
and dealt with similar science fiction themes. Dreyfus's
two performances he gave for Speilberg in the 70's with Jaws
and Close Encounters are unforgetable and quite possibly
helped make Speilberg's career.


 

Mat from Birmingham, UK on 2001-09-24 17:59 [#00035898]



just thought i would say there weren't any aliens at the
end! They were highly evolved robots that continued
advancing after the humans became extinct... can't believe
no one realised that.

and just because someone says they really liked a film does
not mean they are a dickhead.

I thought speilberg took many risks with the film...
especially with the way audiences are today.

Blade Runner and 2001 opened to poor reviews but look at how
they are regarded now... i think the same will happen to
AI.



 

Clobe Smith from over here on 2001-09-24 20:53 [#00035940]



i loved a.i. granted i can't watch it repeatedly like some
other films but i thoroughly enjoyed it. it was to my
understanding kubrick wanted spielberg to direct because
essentially, it was supposed to be more of a "fairy
tale"-like movie.

as far as the creatures in the end being advanced robots, i
was wondering if that was the case. i said that among some
friends and got all the same reactions "nooo, those are
aliens!" oh well

(hehe, did anyone else slightly consider spielberg was
making fun of jar jar binks/lucas with teddy. an effective,
comic relief side character? haha)


 

balthus from europe on 2001-09-24 23:06 [#00035975]



yes, it's so interesting almost no one guessed that the
creatures in the end were in fact robots... it's kind of a
proof that not many people got the movie, or had a second
thought about it. a friend of mine said that the end was so
corny but the aliens were 'cool' (i found the effects in the
finale were a kind of a let-down), and in the end she said
that the movie was the worst she'd ever seen (i should have
remind her of the scenes i mentioned above!). in my case i
don't hate the movie, but in the same way i don't think a.i.
is a masterpiece. it is a very interesting movie, far from
perfect or great, but with weird and outstanding scenes and
visuals. i mean there are not many good sf-movies, and a.i.
was a lot more ambitious than almost any other recent
sf-movie. it's really sad, sf could be such an interesting
genre, but there are not many people with ideas, and the
production companies in hollywood, who got the money are not
willing to take any risks (but this is a truism, i know).
but there is now a project which could be interesting -
'2046' by the hong kong director wong kar-wai. we'll see.


 

Organ Grinder from my own little fantasy world on 2001-09-24 23:45 [#00035991]



I am a fan of Kubrick's films......
Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, and A Clockwork Orange were
all brilliant!!

But i haven't heard much on A.I.

But Kubrick died during the making of Eyes Wide Shut --
perhaps that's why it sucked in comparison to his other
work.....

i have yet to see 2001:A Space Odyssey.


 

red iv ider on 2001-09-25 04:20 [#00036074]



i automatically assumed they were highly evolved ai's,
because of the way they were excavating in the ice to learn
about themselves. i think that many thought they were
aliens because they had that typical cliche alien look
that's been established by the media.


 

Barrett, Syd from T Dot on 2001-09-25 04:35 [#00036080]



2001 is amazing. wicked soundtrack.


 

balthus from europe on 2001-09-25 09:23 [#00036147]



2001 is one of the greatest movies ever, and the best
sf-movie.


 

Julian Casablancas on 2001-09-25 12:41 [#00036207]



Organ Grinder: Eyes Wide Shut was completed just before
Kubrick's death, I think.


 

al>< from dublin on 2001-09-25 14:52 [#00036248]



good joke hedgeman........



 

Hedgeman from zurich-ch on 2001-09-25 15:46 [#00036252]



sorry, but where is the joke.
i know that Kubrick died, but i didn't say he is still
alive.
See! i have my troubles with english


 

al>< from dublin on 2001-09-25 15:59 [#00036254]



the joke that Artificial Intelligence is a series from Warp
and that the movie AI doesn't have Warp stuff on it's
soundtrack!...ha ha!!...gotcha!


 

Hedgeman from zurich-ch on 2001-09-25 16:04 [#00036255]



why? anyone told me that fucking information about AI
how the hell can i know it.
so im sorry. i'm a swiss, also i could't knwo it.
argh.....really funny funny joke. i had lost


 


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