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Henrik
from Ã…rhus N (Denmark) on 2003-01-13 04:56 [#00512281]
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Hey waxers and plastics!
Can anyone explain to me what the Gantz Graf DVD is all about? Music or merely graphix? Any good or crap?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 04:57 [#00512282]
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Henrik
from Ã…rhus N (Denmark) on 2003-01-13 04:59 [#00512285]
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Yes, qrter..? You were saying? :-)
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-01-13 05:00 [#00512286]
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Music videos? 3 I think?
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 05:00 [#00512287]
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Ive been curious of buying it too....
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-01-13 05:01 [#00512289]
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Along with MANY other places to read about it....
Grantz Graf DVD
you can find info here....=)
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Henrik
from Ã…rhus N (Denmark) on 2003-01-13 05:02 [#00512290]
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But should one, if not giving a Pennsylvanian fig about graphix, go buy it for the music, u think?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 05:03 [#00512292]
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Depends. If you find it in a bargain bucket for 3 pence then I'd maybe consider getting it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 05:03 [#00512293]
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then you can buy the music itself. there are 3 formats: music, video, music & video.
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Henrik
from Ã…rhus N (Denmark) on 2003-01-13 05:04 [#00512294]
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Cool, IronLung, thanx for the info. Me thinks me will stick to the vinyl... ,-)
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 05:04 [#00512295]
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Fuck it, buy it anyway. You'll never know unless you listen to it...
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-01-13 05:05 [#00512296]
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not a problem man....
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-01-13 06:10 [#00512351]
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this ae is crazy and the main video is totaly bitchin' as are the other 2, i actually was listening to this cd yesterday in the car, a few times
GET IT !!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 06:15 [#00512357]
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Get the music, but skip the DVD
They could have done so many cool things with this... an entire DVD... but all you get is three videos (none of them particularly interesting (altough i know alot of people disagree with me)), selectable through one of the ugliest menus i've ever seen.
And as a bonus some stills from the GG-video :-(
What a dissapointment!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-01-13 06:30 [#00512373]
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surround----the diappointment is in your review of the videos man :0(
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 06:36 [#00512385]
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yes i didn't like those videos at all.
But on the other hand i thought the music was fantastic!
I just wish i would have bought the single-cd version of it. I really regret spending so much cash on a DVD i never watch.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 06:39 [#00512392]
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surrounded i must disagree with you here my man..
i've got the DVD and it's because of that video the GG-track makes sense to me now
at first i thought of GG as noise but seeing the videoclip along with the music really gives you a view on how the track is build up
i don't regret buying the DVD, imo esp. the GG-video adds very much to the music,
i like the other two videos also though
..and i used one of the 'special-feature-screenshots' as background for my desktop :D
i'm happy with it, look --> :D and yet another smile --> :D another one coming up.... :D '...man that GG-DVD really must be something...'
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 06:44 [#00512405]
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haha! if you don't wanna see the video, why buy the dvd?? funny :)
i agree with morton gantz graf makes more sense with the graphics. although they could've added some more textures. it's still pretty innovative though, i think. we won't look back on it in 7 years or so like we do on the horrible basscadet video :D
:D
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2003-01-13 06:49 [#00512419]
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i cant barrly wait to when chris cunningham realeases his warp dvd video colection
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-01-13 06:58 [#00512446]
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The pleasure of viewing the Gantz Graf video is worth the price of buying the DVD - no doubts.
It's an amazing piece of artwork!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 07:17 [#00512472]
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I got the dvd for £10.99.From HMV. IMO its still reversed noise.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 07:28 [#00512492]
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well good thing you have the DVD :D you can turn off the sound, you'll still have the video :D
another reason to buy it!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 07:31 [#00512500]
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lol
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 09:38 [#00512677]
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noise? Well the track is noisy ;-) But definitely not unstructured noise. I already heard that on my first listen (when i hadn't watched the video yet). The main beat/melody stands out rather clearly from the rest... and after a couple more listens, all the little details also fell into place.
A couple of days later i also watched the dvd...
"seeing the videoclip along with the music really gives you a view on how the track is build up"
well yeah... ofcourse i also noticed how the videoclip reacts to the music. Every little sound is sort of visualised. But i just don't see how that could make the music better for everyone :-)
Oh well... there are as many opinions as there are people, hehe.
"i like the other two videos also though"
even basscadet?! I almost fell asleep watching that :-p
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 11:14 [#00512725]
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even basscadet?! I almost fell asleep watching that :-p
Oh well... there are as many opinions as there are people, hehe.
;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 11:16 [#00512727]
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:-p
good point. I couldn't have said it better myself ;-)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 11:21 [#00512731]
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haha probably not :D
still enjoying the cd's..? fav's already??
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 11:28 [#00512737]
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"still enjoying the cd's..?"
hell yeah! :-) (i'm not sure if you only mean the ones i ordered from Rare, or also what i bought yesterday. But it actually doesn't really matter because i'm enjoying all of them :-D)
"fav's already??"
Lol, i must not think about this too much... or i'll probably come up with reasons for listing every cd i bought in the last couple of days ;-) I've managed to cut it down to a top6...
1. rest proof clockwork 2. confield 3. LP5 4. garbage 5. discovery 6. sakura
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 11:56 [#00512757]
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oh dear surrounded..
how can you NOT be impressed by the GG video..?
it is, indeed, a piece of art.
and the track itself is in so much noise that all music can be considered to be noise.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 12:09 [#00512771]
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well it's just random vector shapes moving about, in synch with the music.
What's to like about it?
I mean i see the point! You hear a sound in Gantz Graf... and at the same time on the screen an abstract shape flashes. The music becomes more dense, and the screen becomes more crowded... etc etc
I see all that... but it just doesn't do anything for me. It's a bit like playing a cd in Windows Media Player, then you can also set it to show you some colors or shapes that change with the music. Yeah actually, the video reminds me a whole lot of that!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 12:13 [#00512776]
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and on top of that... even if i would have liked the video, i would have still thought the DVD was extremely poorly executed, and not enough to justify the hefty price.
Think about it... they could have put their entire discography in there! Complete with their comment on every release, fragments of sound etc. Maybe even some other cool artwork and whatnot...
3 videos and some stills is really quite crappy... considering the possibilities of DVD.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 12:29 [#00512783]
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the price wasn't that hefty, come on..
and I don't think they are "random vector shapes". Rutherford worked three months straight on the animation.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 15:20 [#00513082]
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surrounded, have a look at the 'special-feature-screenshots' see for instance how detailed they are..
in the video they move very quick, but when you look close at a 'frozen' screenshot you can see the detail.. very small parts and shadow etc.
i think the video is quite some artwork :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-13 16:43 [#00513135]
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Slightly more than the price of a normal album... i still say it's alot for only 3 songs! The DVD feels more like a promotion-item that should have been given away for free :-p (not talking about the quality of the videos now, but just the general lay-out and the quantity of the contents).
"and I don't think they are "random vector shapes". Rutherford worked three months straight on the animation."
Okay... i put it in the wrong words. What i meant was that all the shapes are abstract. There's nothing "clever" about it, and they don't mean anything. It's all geometrical shapes, that don't seem to have any relationship to the music.
Have you seen the Chemical Brothers video for "star guitar"? In a way... you could say it has the same concept as the GG-video. Only i liked this one much better. I didn't notice anything the first time, but the second time i suddenly started to grin as i realised: "hey how clever! Everything the train passes is exactly synchronised with the music!" It's awesome! I bored my entire family to death by telling them how clever it was everytime the video was on MTV ;-)
When i watched GG i just thought (unexcited): "oh ok... all these geometrical shapes are synchronised with the music... yawn." I'm sure it has been alot of work for Mr. Rutherford... but it has hardly paid off ;-)
I'll follow Morton's advice and study the stills sometime... maybe they will help me appreciate the video a little more...
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